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Old 02-09-2012, 10:04 PM   #1
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Nothing serious but I never been called on either of these two things.

1 breaker lock on the dishwasher. I have one of those small screw on type gadgets but he wants one that can be locked off.

2 Garbage disposal wire. This one strikes me as odd here we usually just run nm right to the g/d but he wants it protected from physical damage with smurf tube.

Agree disagree? What do you use on d/w breakers for locks. How (or why bother) do you protect nm from physical damage under a sink.

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We've had to put sealtight under sink to disposal for years. Normal here. Lock on dishwasher I had an inspector tell me to do that just 1 time. made no sense but I just did it

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How do you protect it with smurf tube?
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i use cords and plugs for each. simple easy way for installation and service.
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How do you protect it with smurf tube?
just slide it over nm (1/2 inch) and use 90 degree sealtight fitting into disposal
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We've had to put sealtight under sink to disposal for years. Normal here. Lock on dishwasher I had an inspector tell me to do that just 1 time. made no sense but I just did it
I never had to put a lock on a dw. This was a first for me as well I'm trying to find it in the book but it escapes me. Physical damage part I don't see how smurf tube will make it better.
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Why lock a dishwasher on?

Just lock them all.
VOILA! No more trips!
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I never had to put a lock on a dw. This was a first for me as well I'm trying to find it in the book but it escapes me. Physical damage part I don't see how smurf tube will make it better.
Makes it a little better prone to things bumping up against it for years and all that soap stuff down there splashing. Lately, I've found it easier to put a jbox at rear of undercabinet and come out with mc whip to disposal. Easier to hook up and good protection.
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I have always been under the impression that if the dishwasher had a on/off switch a lock/service switch wasn't required.
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Makes it a little better prone to things bumping up against it for years and all that soap stuff down there splashing. Lately, I've found it easier to put a jbox at rear of undercabinet and come out with mc whip to disposal. Easier to hook up and good protection.
I think this is what I'm going to do.

Any idea WTF I have to put a lock on it?
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I have always been under the impression that if the dishwasher had a on/off switch a lock/service switch wasn't required.
That is a good point, wouldn't that unit switch serve considering it discosnnects all ungrounded conductors? Too lazy to open book.
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I have always been under the impression that if the dishwasher had a on/off switch a lock/service switch wasn't required.
I Don't see a need for a lock either, Just make it cord and plug.
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Here they want the breaker lock on the dishwasher because it is usually hardwired without a line of sight disconnecting means. Electric water heaters can ding you here too.
Disposals never really had to protect the wire in smurf etc. I do know from a past coworker that you need to watch the cords make sure that they are the heavier duty appliance type not cheapie light replacement type. He got dinged on that, we do it right 'cause we do it twice...
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We've had to put sealtight under sink to disposal for years. Normal here. Lock on dishwasher I had an inspector tell me to do that just 1 time. made no sense but I just did it
what part of georgia are you from anyway???
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If the DW has a manual mechanical on/off switch you don't need the lock but.........what type of panel?
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If the DW has a manual mechanical on/off switch you don't need the lock but.........what type of panel?
Seimans if I recall.

It has an electronic on/off
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Why lock a dishwasher on?

Just lock them all.
VOILA! No more trips!
It would be to lock the breaker open.
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Nothing serious but I never been called on either of these two things.

1 breaker lock on the dishwasher. I have one of those small screw on type gadgets but he wants one that can be locked off.

2 Garbage disposal wire. This one strikes me as odd here we usually just run nm right to the g/d but he wants it protected from physical damage with smurf tube.

Agree disagree? What do you use on d/w breakers for locks. How (or why bother) do you protect nm from physical damage under a sink.

South Jersey btw


#1 - Is this a 'new' inspector ?
My guess, yes, perhaps 30-40 yrs old. Code suave - and wants you to know it.
Be nice, 'IT' may be around a while (). Yet stand your ground. You must know the 'code' as well.

#1-A - If you installed a rec and cord - There's your disconnect.

#2 - Technically - Yes. you should have that in flex or something, then you must secure it.

But it seems like he wants to do his 'job' . Justify the public funds paying him/her (all well and good).
Remember though - What was 'ACCEPTED' - before - may not be now. . So know your 'code'. Never!!! get in a gun fight with a knife.

New sheriff.

Napolean - Ask - politely - for any code references that you may feel in conflict with your install.
But always in a manner to let the Inspector 'off' the hook.
(Makes them feel better and less likely to bust yo arse later. Not that they ever would).

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