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Old 08-13-2009, 09:12 PM   #1
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What are some of your opinions on the two generators? which one is more better..? I have a customer that wants a kohler to feed their 400 amp service but I really would like to get them to go with a generac. I would like persuade them to generac but I need some hard info on why its better. I am doing this with another EC and he uses generac. If the customer insists on Kohler what is entailed with me becoming a "dealer" with them..? Thanks for your replies..

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Generac = gener crap

If you're making me choose between the two, the Kohler is what I'll pick any day.

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Generac = gener crap

If you're making me choose between the two, the Kohler is what I'll pick any day.
Thats kind of what I figured. If we went with generac we could make some money on the units alone.... But neither of us are Kohler dealers.. And this lady wants this done ASAP.. How long does it take to get set up with them..? and do I need to sell at least two a year or something..?
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Kohler makes very good engines. I know nothing of their generator package.
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Kohler. Hands down.

My supplier not only sells them, they also deliver and set them. All I do is hook them up, get a plumber in, and call for commissioning.
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Kohler. Hands down.

My supplier not only sells them, they also deliver and set them. All I do is hook them up, get a plumber in, and call for commissioning.
Does your supplier deliver to NJ and would you mind floating me 26,000
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How long does it take to get set up with them..?
I don't think you can unless you have an engine mechanic on staff. I buy Kohler from the Kohler dealer (a local motor shop). They bring them out in their fancy generator setting trailer and set them. After they're hooked up they come back out again to go through the checklist and fire it up (required to keep the warranty valid; it's all part of the price).
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I don't think you can unless you have an engine mechanic on staff. I buy Kohler from the Kohler dealer (a local motor shop). They bring them out in their fancy generator setting trailer and set them. After they're hooked up they come back out again to go through the checklist and fire it up (required to keep the warranty valid; it's all part of the price).
The customer wants to buy the unit but my thinking was if I was to buy it I could get a better contractor deal and make a few more bucks on it.
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The customer wants to buy the unit but my thinking was if I was to buy it I could get a better contractor deal and make a few more bucks on it.
I do better with selling a service contract after the unit has been commissioned.
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I do better with selling a service contract after the unit has been commissioned.
I know that you dont like to talk numbers on line but is the contract a month to month thing or yearly...? and how many times a year do you service them..?
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If it was for myself I will say get Kohler just stay away from Generarc I have issue with those peice of merde long story short too many specal parts and get service IMO it kinda in stink catogery area.

That why I always go with Cat or Kohler and couple others and they are easy to service and get parts if need to.

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A good Kohler unit = 1800 RPM engine speed
Generac units = 3600 RPM

Always go for the 1800 RPM units; they have better guts, engine operates at ˝ the speed, run quieter, last longer, etc.
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Every Genrac unit should be melted down and sold as scrap.

The engineers that design them should be fired.

The bosses that approved the design should be shot.

I just wired a 80 KW 208Y/120 Genrac unit and it was total crap along with the ATS that went with it.

For instance the neutral lug was mounted facing in where you could not access it, the wiring compartment had spinning parts in it so you better be careful how you route the wiring.
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Beware also that Generac also private brand labels their generators, so you'll find Generac's with other brand names slapped on the outside. Siemens and Coleman come to mind, but I know there are others. Chances are pretty good that if you're looking at a packaged 3600rpm generator, you stand a pretty good chance of looking at a Generac, no matter what brand name is on the outside.
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If its a good customer, use Kohler. If they are cheap SOBs get them a Generac.
I avoid Generac (even worse are Guardians) as much as I can.
If you need to purchase a Kohler, got to the website, look up the support # and they will transfer your call to a local deaer.
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How about the Cummins/Onan units? I am pricing some 30kw units for a customer. The dealer sells Kohler as well. He did mention that running 1800 rpm was good for a lot of reasons, but oil consumption was a big one.
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How about the Cummins/Onan units? I am pricing some 30kw units for a customer. The dealer sells Kohler as well. He did mention that running 1800 rpm was good for a lot of reasons, but oil consumption was a big one.
I would consider Onan as an upgrade to a Kohler
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I would consider Onan as an upgrade to a Kohler
I have an Onan on my one bucket truck, and it's about as bullet-proof as you can get. Onans are popularly featured on RV's, boats, and tractor-trailers.
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they are that bad huh....I guess its going to be Kohler.....
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How about the Cummins/Onan units?
I have worked with a large number of these from 2 cylinder to 10 cylinder from new to 30 or more years old and I like them.

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