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11-14-2009, 01:09 PM
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Don't believe everything you hear. Thats bunk. The breakers are locked so some idiot does not turn off the wrong one. They can still trip and kill the circuit.
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11-14-2009, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by John Valdes
Thats exactly what the guy that got burned did. Are you saying you are a MORON?
I though you were a quality type. What if the receptacle circuit is connected to a 800 amp breaker on the line side? Huh. Union or not, thats what a RAT would do.
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Actually, I was saying it to see the responses.
Have I grounded a wire before to do this? YES.
Wsa it the "right" way...absolutely not.
The best way, IMHO,
1. Is to kill the power
2. use a circuit tracer
I guess it's possible, but ususally the panel main would trip before it got to the building main....but anythings possible.
What matters most is ME....so if I have to kill the building power to keep myself safe, then the secretaries are jsut gonna have to deal with it.
~Joe
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11-14-2009, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by John Valdes
Don't believe everything you hear. Thats bunk. The breakers are locked so some idiot does not turn off the wrong one. They can still trip and kill the circuit.
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No they didn't
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11-14-2009, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by macmikeman
I used the flasher route for years. Cannot find a good source for them now, and somehow lost my rig way back. Used to be wholesale houses had them in stock. Kids behind the counter give me a blank stare if I ask for one nowadays.
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Ebay!
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11-14-2009, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Magnettica
It's frowned upon because if you have a poor splice anywhere on that circuit the heat from the short circuit could break apart that splice and open the circuit. Now you have identified the circuit but opened a can of worms to another problem that you of course have caused. The heat from the short circuit is especially dangerous in older circuits, such as knob and tube, and the chance of starting a fire are real.
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thanks sincerly for explaining the cons to this method...i can honestly say i only use this method on new houses we have wired,,with only can lights etc. on the circut and i use it to label the panel by myself...i have a greenelee circut finder for old work.
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11-14-2009, 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 480sparky
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This will crack you up. I have suggested Ebay at least a hundred times to guys looking for stuff, but I never once bought anything there myself yet..... got scared off by the crime hype.
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11-14-2009, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by macmikeman
This will crack you up. I have suggested Ebay at least a hundred times to guys looking for stuff, but I never once bought anything there myself yet..... got scared off by the crime hype.
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I have 846 ebay transactions, and have only been ripped off once.
I wish I could say the same thing about my EC business customers.
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11-15-2009, 04:13 AM
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If this set up is in the conduit one way you can able do if your hearing is good all you need a nice compressor and blow gun and blow in the conduit you can hear where the air goes otherwise a air horn will do the trick.
One of my other trick is use the electric motour and take a peice of two by four and use that as dummy brake and do the stall start up most case it will trip the breaker expect never trippers aka FPE or Zinco breakers
otherwise a small electric heater or quatz luminarie make sure you get 500 watter and put in a flasher or load cycling timer to alternate on et off sequince it will show up on the ampmeter.
Direct short that is very last thing I will do that
Merci,Marc
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11-15-2009, 06:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by traveler
The best way, IMHO,
1. Is to kill the power
2. use a circuit tracer
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If you knew which breaker turned off the circuit why would you need the tracer?
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11-15-2009, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by gilbequick
If you knew which breaker turned off the circuit why would you need the tracer?
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Exactly.
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11-15-2009, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by traveler
Yep...that's 277V.
120V dosen't flash like that.
I'll let you guys spend an hour hooking all that crap up.....if I'm doing service work, then I'm "in and out".
more time for lunch! 
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Never saw a receptacle connected to 277.
120 doesn't flash like that.
I will hunt for two days before I would pull a stunt like that. I am surprised you still have a job.
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