Murry / Arrow Hart breakers? - Electrician Talk - Professional Electrical Contractors Forum

Tapeman · 11-05-2009, 12:03 AM

I wired a new bedroom and the existing panel is a Murry/Arrow Hart. I need to use a twin breaker to make space in the panel for a new breaker.

I think I can use a twin T&B breaker that is listed for Murry, but it is a factory order and will take 10-14 days.

I think I will have to add a small sub panel for the arc fault breaker as I have not been able to find a listed arc fault breaker for that panel.

Does anyone know of any arc fault breakers listed for those panels?

I would like to find someone with these breakers in stock.

Thanks, Tapeman

Peter D · 11-05-2009, 12:04 AM

Just use a new Murray breaker. They even have them at Lowes and Home Depot. Don't make this more complicated than it needs to be.

Tapeman · 11-05-2009, 10:01 AM

I didn't see them at either Home Depot or Lowe's, but I didn't ask if they had them. I'll try again.

Thanks

Tapeman · 11-05-2009, 02:03 PM

I looked on Lowe's and Home Depot's web sites and they do not list any breakers for Murry panels.

Peter D · 11-05-2009, 02:04 PM

Interesting. Must be a local thing. How about Siemens then? They are identical to Murray.

EDM · 11-05-2009, 03:01 PM

Home Depot around here carries Murray, not Lowes. I've seen a lot of Siemens breakers in place of a Murray like Peter dearest said, but that would make you a big dumb hack.

Tapeman · 11-05-2009, 04:09 PM

Connecticut Electric makes a twin breaker that is listed for Murray panels, but non of my local suppliers stocks them. I understand that Cultler Hammer makes a cheater breaker, I'll look into whether it is listed or not.

Peter D · 11-05-2009, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by EDM

Home Depot around here carries Murray, not Lowes.

Lowes and HD carry them here, so there.

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I've seen a lot of Siemens breakers in place of a Murray like Peter dearest said, but that would make you a big dumb hack.

Even Marc Shunk, who is no hack, admits to interchanging Siemens and Murray. That's good enough for me. Anyway, for an ancient obsolete panel like Arrow Hart, I'd say it's a moot point whether it's a Siemens or Murray at this stage in the game.

EDM · 11-05-2009, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter D

Lowes and HD carry them here, so there.

Even Marc Shunk, who is no hack, admits to interchanging Siemens and Murray. That's good enough for me. Anyway, for an ancient obsolete panel like Arrow Hart, I'd say it's a moot point whether it's a Siemens or Murray at this stage in the game.

Don't buy into his name, he is really Tom Hartmann.

BuzzKill · 11-05-2009, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter D

Interesting. Must be a local thing. How about Siemens then? They are identical to Murray.

exactly, they are both interchangable, just use Siemans and be done with it.