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07-20-2012, 09:56 PM
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I see a bunch of noodles using the can as a CCC... if it's even bonded.
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In winter, why do we try to keep the house as warm as it was in summer when we complained about the heat?
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07-20-2012, 09:57 PM
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I love the add on "neutral bars" even tho the real ones are just about empty. Wonder if they heard of a wire nut?
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07-20-2012, 09:58 PM
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What that house needs are copper thieves, then rewiring 
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07-20-2012, 09:58 PM
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I love the add on "neutral bars" even tho the real ones are just about empty. Wonder if they heard of a wire nut?
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They have, but they'll illegal in the panel. 
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07-20-2012, 10:00 PM
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They have, but they'll illegal in the panel. |
Whachu talkin' bout Willis?
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07-20-2012, 10:01 PM
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Time to re do it all
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07-20-2012, 10:55 PM
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Whachu talkin' bout Willis?
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Old wives tale.
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07-20-2012, 10:57 PM
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Fugly
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07-20-2012, 11:09 PM
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Urban Legend Electrical Code. 35319.14.31(A)(3)(b)(109.115)(x)(3)(rtwj): No wire nuts are allowed in panels.
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07-21-2012, 12:19 AM
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Wow art. 35319. I'm missing a lot of the book!
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07-22-2012, 12:46 PM
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Quote:
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Urban Legend Electrical Code. 35319.14.31(A)(3)(b)(109.115)(x)(3)(rtwj): No wire nuts are allowed in panels.
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More likely Home Inspectors Manual page 2 of 6: No wire nuts are allowed in panels.
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07-22-2012, 01:09 PM
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More likely Home Inspectors Manual page 2 of 6: No wire nuts are allowed in panels.
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Lol.
I've seen enough. Take it all down.
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07-22-2012, 01:52 PM
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4500 seems to be letting them off pretty cheap. Needs some markup.
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07-22-2012, 02:40 PM
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4500 seems to be letting them off pretty cheap. Needs some markup. |
I was going to say! 
Must be an old lady who doesn't know any better.
But for that much I could build a wall around this panel, add sheetrock, and have it recessed into the wall and not have to remove any of the existing cables. And I can guarantee it would not only look good, but be safe, and impress the **** out of the customer! Free grounding inspection included!
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07-22-2012, 03:08 PM
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I don't know, $4500 seems about right to fix what's in the pictures.
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07-22-2012, 03:10 PM
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Wow art. 35319. I'm missing a lot of the book!
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Art. 35319 is in the front of the book. Article 9178945 is about GFCI's and ungrounded circuits.
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07-22-2012, 04:57 PM
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I'll have an update tomorrow. I'm curious to know what the electrician is going to say about it.
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07-23-2012, 08:57 PM
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so this didn't go to well for the listing agent as his electrician did not pick up on the panel not being bonded or having any issues but a couple of double tapped ckts and some wiring that should be removed.  so i let his electrician go through the panel say his findings then i asked so that's all is fine to live with. He to my surprise says yeah i would just make a splice in there that way your not double tapping on the breaker.  That worked out perfect for me as i ripped into it. i asked him "so you can sit there say that the panel having no proper ground is fine". he says "oh i didn't see that, well you can fix that''. i said yes you can then once you touch it you own the panel and you need to correct the problems. to make a long story short i explained it all to him and he was like yeah that's right. the listing agent wasn't too pleased as he asked me what does it cost hourly to get it fix he says $50 i told him i don't get out of bed for pocket change. ask your electrician i have my quote ready once i receive yours. 
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07-23-2012, 09:05 PM
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Just looking at how that panel is installed tells me there could be problems. Haven't seen wire going into a panel that messy in a while.
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