 |
04-29-2007, 12:42 AM
|
#1
|
|
Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 5
|
need help with pump wiring.
I am wiring a single phase 15 h.p. 240 v. pump and not sure just how to size branch circuit protection,fuse size, and conductor size.
I have looked at franklin pump chart and pump f.l.a is 60 amps. Frankling recommends 175 amp fuses. This seems strange to me. I am considering installing a 200 amp mobile home panel on outside of pump house, feeding a 200 amp rated fused safety switch back to back of service panel inside pump house and install 175 amp fuses in disconect and feed from fused safety switch over a few feet to 15 hp pump controll panel with # 4 copper thhn since the pump f.l.a. is 60 amps x 1.25% is 75 amps. Pump is wired with # 6 THW 20' down to pump. I am out of my comfort Zone with this and need some advice on how to proceed. Do I feed 200 amp fused safety switch with 3/0 copper or #4 copper, or do I feed 3/0 copper from meter to safety switch and then out of safety switch to pump controller with #4 copper. Not sure. HELP!!!
|
|
|
Join the #1 Electrician Forum Today - It's Totally Free!
ElectricianTalk.com - Are you a Professional Electrical Contractor? If so we invite you to join our community and see what it has to offer. Our site is specifically designed for you and it's the leading place for electricians to meet online. No homeowners asking DIY questions. Just fellow tradesmen who enjoy talking about their business, their trade, and anything else that comes up. No matter what your specialty is you'll find that ElectricianTalk.com is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally free!
Join ElectricianTalk.com - Click Here

|
Warning: The topics covered on this site include activities in which there exists the potential for serious injury
or death. ElectrcianTalk.com DOES NOT guarantee the accuracy or completeness of any information contained on this site. Always use proper safety precaution and reference reliable outside sources before attempting any construction or remodeling task!
04-29-2007, 01:46 AM
|
#2
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Salt Lake City
Posts: 617
|
Are you an electrician? Perhaps you should call one.....
Use the nameplate fla to size the overloads and table 430.150 to size everything else.....
__________________
Joe Momma was here
|
|
|
04-29-2007, 10:55 AM
|
#3
|
|
Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 5
|
pump is single phase 230 15 hp 430-150 table goes to 10 hp no overloads in system only fused protection.
|
|
|
04-29-2007, 11:07 AM
|
#4
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Baltimore, MD, USA
Posts: 3,490
|
Will the 200 amp panel be used for any other loads?
__________________
John from Baltimore
"One day at a Time"
All responses based on the '08 NEC
It's not my fault, it's not my problem, I'm not your solution. 
|
|
|
04-29-2007, 11:58 AM
|
#5
|
|
Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 5
|
light inside pump house and light outside man door to pump house and service receptacle.
|
|
|
04-29-2007, 06:28 PM
|
#6
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Baltimore, MD, USA
Posts: 3,490
|
1) feeder to panel : NEC 215 (remember voltage drop)
200 amps seems like overkill
2) the rest of this comes under NEC 430
I suppose since a 240v 1ph motor isn't listed in the 430 tables, you would use the nameplate FLA, but I am not positive.
When looking at 430, I start at figure 430.1. It makes it easier to calculate everything in order, so to speak.
__________________
John from Baltimore
"One day at a Time"
All responses based on the '08 NEC
It's not my fault, it's not my problem, I'm not your solution. 
|
|
|
04-30-2007, 12:08 AM
|
#7
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Salt Lake City
Posts: 617
|
table 430.148 refers to single phase motors, but it only goes up to 10 horse.
So you'll have to work from the nameplate values.
And I've never known it to be overkill to install a panel larger than the job at hand.
__________________
Joe Momma was here
|
|
|
04-30-2007, 04:10 AM
|
#8
|
|
DJFVT
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: VT
Posts: 1,017
|
Use #4 wire
100 amp time delay fuse in a good quility 100 amp fused disconnect
100 amp circuit breaker in 200 amp panel
Make sure everything is at least NEMA 4 rated
|
|
|
04-30-2007, 07:54 PM
|
#9
|
|
Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 5
|
thanks for the info. figured 60 amps fla x125% = 75 amps so will feed #4 thhn off 80 amp c.b. feeding to 100 amp fused safety switch with 90 amp dual element time delay fuses. thanks for help.
|
|
|
04-30-2007, 10:17 PM
|
#10
|
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Baltimore, MD, USA
Posts: 3,490
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by jhall
thanks for the info. figured 60 amps fla x125% = 75 amps so will feed #4 thhn off 80 amp c.b. feeding to 100 amp fused safety switch with 90 amp dual element time delay fuses. thanks for help.
|
You may wish to check table 430.52
Inverse time breaker- FLA x 250%
Time delay fuse - FLA x 175%
__________________
John from Baltimore
"One day at a Time"
All responses based on the '08 NEC
It's not my fault, it's not my problem, I'm not your solution. 
|
|
|
04-30-2007, 11:09 PM
|
#11
|
|
Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 5
|
taking info straight off of Franklin 15hp single phase 230 volt chart for dual element time delay fuses
|
|
|
05-01-2007, 03:57 AM
|
#12
|
|
DJFVT
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: VT
Posts: 1,017
|
You have to remember that table 430.52 is the Maximum rating or setting. And going by what the manufacturer of the equipment recommends is the better choice.
|
|
|
| Thread Tools |
Search this Thread |
|
|
|
| Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
|