Benaround

It's just poor planing.

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steelersman

Not according to ZZDoug who had the following to say at the thread about pigtailing in multi-ganged switch boxes:

Hey, dont blame me for what the code says, I didnt write it. The code itself tells you right at the beginning in article 90 that the authority having jurisdiction (which is usually the electrical board, and by extension the inspector) has the final say in interpretation of the code as well as approval of equipment and materials. What I was saying is that the term "neat and workmanlike manner" is a matter of opinion, my personal opinion is that it should include consideration of future servicing. But ultimately its the inspectors opinion that counts, and while I dont think very many inspectors would go so far as to make you pigtail, dont fool yourself into thinking they wouldnt have the power to make such an interpretation. Unless you have someone on your side on the electrical board or in the mayors office etc, underestimating the power of an inspector can be a serious mistake.

sparkyboys

good example! the inspectors that deal do not give a rats ass about what the code says.

if it is not to specifications as to the spec codes they will fail it.
i do mostly schools and hospitals, but mostly state and govt. they have their own codes. so read that code book and memorize it all you want.

but if you do not study the spec codes on the print, you know the you follow to layout your building, your are screwed.
so remember code book, but also remember your spec codes can be totally different.

i am very good at what i do

william1978

"neat and workmanlike manner" Is enforceable atleast thats what they say. Me personal I wish it could be enforced because it sure would help this trade.

Frasbee

I'd go with a 4-point, but as long as you can push the wire through, and the inspector won't mind, f*ck it.

eds

where is the box conn on the lower left pipe

Benaround

Look close, that pipe goes behind the box, nice stuff!!

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acmax

I agree

Some day 1/2'' will be band from all installs and all these Picasso will no longer be necessary. Most state spec jobs are now only allowing 3/4'' or greater for all conduit leaving the panel.

sparkyboys

Some day 1/2'' will be band from all installs and all these Picasso will no longer be necessary. Most state spec jobs are now only allowing 3/4'' or greater for all conduit leaving the panel.[/quote]

we do not use 1/2 " when a 3/4 pipe is only like $.30 more, but we also get master bundles only too

Frasbee

We use 1/2'' all day.

goose134

Well I think it was real nice to give that box some space. I've done the same when the occasion has risen. I've also had to get into boxes where the same consideration was not applied.

user4818

I always laugh at comments like these. They're just so silly.

steelersman

I agree, especially when they use the word "band" when it should have been "banned". I also believe "Picasso" has only 1 "s" so I think it should say "Picaso". But anyway, half inch pipe has it's place in the field.

user4818

Well, since we are on a spelling correction theme here, it's "its," not "it's."

steelersman

ah yes. good catch peter. thanks.

user4818

Anytime. Technical precision is very important in our trade after all.

steelersman

I couldn't agree more!

RUSSIAN

I agree, but I suspect a better route could have been used in the first place

randomkiller

Well due to the fact that the "its" in question was in reference to position of a place in the field, you would use the apostophy to show the posive term so it was "it's" , just as it would be Peter's or Paul's. I see my wife grading those papers on weekends all the time.

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InPhase277

That ain't how I learned it. Not for the particular word "it", anyway. I was taught that "it's" is a contraction of "it is". A possessive pronoun on the other hand, "its", doesn't have an apostrophe just as "his" or "hers" doesn't have an apostrophe. As far as I know, only nouns get an 's to show possession.

Then again, I was science nerd and English was never my strong point.