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Old 06-15-2012, 09:18 AM   #1
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Some utilities in my area will not let the contractor pull the meter for service work , you must have a lineman pull and reinstall. What is the policy were your at?

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Old 06-15-2012, 09:28 AM   #2
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Not supposed to touch or even look at it here

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Get permit, POCO cuts power, EC does work, inspector releases job to POCO via FAX, POCO re-connects power & re-installs meter.
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$500 fine if you tamper with meter or service drop , got 2 fine last year . They trained the meter guy to look at unsealed meter panel and then HO receive letter from city to go get a permit and inspection .
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we call for temp disconnect at 7 am. poco gives 4 hour window to execute. if its a drop, we sometimes cut it if poco is slow. the poco thanks us and comes back after inspection to reconnect. if no permit is needed, we call for reconnect. poco will unlock meter if requested. we always remove it though.
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Pull'em here all the time...sometimes I'll call the poco and let them know I pulled it sometimes I forget.
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Not supposed to touch them here.

Occasionally we can get a POCO guy out within an hour but sometimes a simple one man, one hour service call can turn into a three man (tech, POCO, City inspector), 8 hour ordeal.

I hate wasting resources.
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In National Grid territory we do it all here- cut the drop, pull the meter, reconnect. It requires a permit and inspection of course.
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Before I was licensed , the utility guys gave me taps and tags. Never applied for a permit or got an inspection on over 50 services. They let us do all, cut, remove, tie in, reinstall, move on.
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In National Grid territory we do it all here- cut the drop, pull the meter, reconnect. It requires a permit and inspection of course.
You do realize that per the rules you cannot tie back in without a inspection.

I am not saying it does not happen only that if the 'stuff' hits the fan it will be you catching it.

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You do realize that per the rules you cannot tie back in without a inspection.

I am not saying it does not happen only that if the 'stuff' hits the fan it will be you catching it.

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Yes, per the letter of the law you're right. But I've never had an issue with that. Every service I've had inspected was tied in already when the inspector came and they never said a word about it. It doesn't seem to be an issue.
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Around here they expect you to, they don't come to redo drop for at least 2 weeks after final. I saw a Meter spot for a undergeound service which said make sure electrician is comfortable cutting power and reconnection.
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Where I am at we can't pull a Meter or cut drops at all. We have to call and schedule it through the power company. The power can not be turned back on until it's inspected . The inspector then faxes in for the ok. I only have two power companies that I deal with . I am located in GA.
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Yes, per the letter of the law you're right. But I've never had an issue with that. Every service I've had inspected was tied in already when the inspector came and they never said a word about it. It doesn't seem to be an issue.
And B4Ts temp set up has never failed him.

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And B4Ts temp set up has never failed him.

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C'mon, you know that's how every service change is done around here. If the poco had an issue with it, they wouldn't have the "cut and reconnect" policy that they do which allows the electrician to do everything.

As soon as National Grid or an inspector says something about it, then I'll start being concerned.
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What peter d is saying us par for the course with Nat grid in this area. I don't think they have the man power to cut and reconnect in one day. It would never happen.and try getting an inspection in the same day, it would be extremely unusual, and cumbersome. I think the.current policy is working well. I know nstar is getting to be worse of a pita when you call for a wo number. I've had them.say I needed a field engineer to check my proposal for a service upgrade, and it was 3 weeks.out until that could happen. Also in Plymouth, they could.not comprehend I replaced am overhead tri plex on the Ho's pole to their house. After their own field.personel cut the taps at the street due to a storm knocking the cables off house. They wanted another field.engineer to come look at my proposal , when it was an.emergency repair, with permit and inspection.
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C'mon, you know that's how every service change is done around here. If the poco had an issue with it, they wouldn't have the "cut and reconnect" policy that they do which allows the electrician to do everything.

As soon as National Grid or an inspector says something about it, then I'll start being concerned.
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What peter d is saying us par for the course with Nat grid in this area.
Did you guys even read what I said?

I fully know how it is commonly done, I have done it.

But that was not what I was saying, I am saying is if you do the reconect and lets say their is a mistake that causes harm you will be much more screwed than if you had done things the right way.

I am not trying to change how you do things but I will tell you I don't do it that way anymore. The customer will wait in the dark for the inspector to call for a reconnect.

(And Pete, the 'C'mon, you know that's how every' argument is pure B4T, when did you become the hypocrite that Harry is? )
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And B4Ts temp set up has never failed him.

Rock on.
Good to see you're finally learning there are other ways of doing a job that works fine for the guy doing the work..

We all can't live in a plastic bubble like you do..
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Where I operate, it's the crossroads of 5 PoCo's. None mind if you cut the drop and pull the meter, some mind if you re-tap it, and one actually charges you 125 bucks if you DON'T cut the drop and re-tap it yourself.
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Good to see you're finally learning there are other ways of doing a job the works fine for the guy doing the work..

We all can't live in a plastic bubble like you do..
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