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Old 11-05-2009, 12:00 AM   #21
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what gives here? cant a guy just get a point in the right direction for the sake of learning? i dont mind reading and actually learning. its not rocket science after all, and i have taken a survey of electricity class. i think im qualified to learn
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Old 11-05-2009, 12:02 AM   #22
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what gives here? cant a guy just get a point in the right direction for the sake of learning? i dont mind reading and actually learning. its not rocket science after all, and i have taken a survey of electricity class. i think im qualified to learn
I'd be happy to explain it all if you really wanted to learn.

But the fact is that you are going to turn around and complete this task that you shouldn't be doing. You proved it is way above your head, you proved how dangerous you can be.
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Old 11-05-2009, 12:02 AM   #23
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If you are determined to do this yourself you need to know these 2 steps.

1. dial 911
2. run like heck

One wrong move and you can start a fire, kill someone, or destroy equipment. If you don't know get help from a local electrician.

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you are all clearly so masterful and infinitely wise beyond that of the average joe. i can see why your so conceited and unwilling to help . i would like to deter any and all from reaching my profound level of greatness too if i had a knowledge base as vast as that which you clearly posess.
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Sure you can. Just not here.
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If it's so simple why are you coming here asking how to do something so simple?
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It's not that we don't want people to learn. I would love to get more people into trades, technology, and science fields. Its just we have all seen one too many things blow up, burnt up, people injured ect. by untrained people doing electrical work. And also whatever you or someone eles does wrong today could come back and hurt one of us one day down the road.

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This site is for professionals only. You are so far away from that, its amasing. GO to a DIY forum and have fun there.

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I hope that was not an old ballast... burning PCBs are not user friendly.

Know what you are doing.. Or call someone who does.
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Reality check....

Okay, let's say you found the right breaker to turn off and remove voltage at the heater. Let's say it was done right and it is a two pole, not two separate breakers.

Then, let's say the thing is wired with two conductor wire and 220 volts. Remove them from the heater and remove the heater from the wall. Replace the heater with a PVC single gang box, using the nails (if you can) or a couple of drywall screws through the box into a stud. Pull the wires into the box, remove any tape from the white wire (if there was any) so it is again white. Connect the black and white wires to the receptacle, observing polarity. Connect the bare grounding conductor to the receptacle grounding screw and mount the receptacle to the box.

Now, let's say the thing is wired with three conductor. Do all of the above except tape the end of the red wire and shove it back in the box. It won't be used.

Back at the service panel, verify the wires involved and, if two conductors, remove the white wire from the breaker and connect it to the neutral bar along with the grounding wire.

If three conductors, disconnect the red, clip its end, and curl it out of the way in the panel. Make sure the black is wired to the breaker. Verify the white is wired to the neutral bar and smoke test the job by turning on the breaker.

This is no kidding and it is most of what any electrician would encounter -- if the original job was done correctly. If the original job involved some kluged together circuit, say with two hot wires picking up 220 volts at two different receptacles or the wires kluged onto the dryer or stove circuit,well.... Point is, you might encounter practically anything. We do, all the time.

And yes, we charge money for our time, effort, and expertise.

Good luck.

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