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He bonds it at one end to prevent induction into the service conductors, and since it is a large enough conductor, it means he doesn't have to wear his tinfoil hat when doing service changes 
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Wearing a tin foil hat isn't wise when you're bugging' in. 
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04-30-2012, 05:03 PM
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Well, at least it's protected with an OCPD and not stapled to the kindling shingles
Oh, wait....nevermind.
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Yeah, that's such a problem.
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04-30-2012, 09:59 PM
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Trust me, it's more expensive. AL SE cable is dirt cheap and practically free when compared to copper prices. But the biggest savings is in labor.
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The guy in Hawaii was using four conductors in his ser cable if he used conduit would only need three. Could still use aluminum.
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04-30-2012, 10:10 PM
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The guy in Hawaii was using four conductors in his ser cable if he used conduit would only need three. Could still use aluminum.
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05-01-2012, 01:59 AM
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The guy in Hawaii was using four conductors in his ser cable if he used conduit would only need three. Could still use aluminum.
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what does this even mean?
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05-02-2012, 08:04 PM
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what does this even mean? |
Ok I'll explain to you. Electrician was buying ser cable and not using the bare conductor.( Ser has 4 conductors in it one of the does not have insulation). If he had used conduit he would only need 3 conductors.
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05-03-2012, 07:57 AM
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Ok I'll explain to you. Electrician was buying ser cable and not using the bare conductor.( Ser has 4 conductors in it one of the does not have insulation). If he had used conduit he would only need 3 conductors.
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Or if he had used copper SE he'd only need 3 conductors. The issue is the exposed bare Al neutral conductor at the weatherhead corroding in salt air.
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05-03-2012, 06:22 PM
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Or if he had used copper SE he'd only need 3 conductors. The issue is the exposed bare Al neutral conductor at the weatherhead corroding in salt air.
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Right
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05-03-2012, 09:56 PM
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Ok I'll explain to you. Electrician was buying ser cable and not using the bare conductor.( Ser has 4 conductors in it one of the does not have insulation). If he had used conduit he would only need 3 conductors.
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Thanks for that brilliant explanation. 
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05-03-2012, 10:08 PM
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Ok I'll explain to you. Electrician was buying ser cable and not using the bare conductor.( Ser has 4 conductors in it one of the does not have insulation). If he had used conduit he would only need 3 conductors.
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This is such a waste of money and dumb.. it is off the charts.. this guy will be mixing paint in the local HD within a year..
I say mixing paint because he doesn't have the knowledge to work the electrical dept...
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05-04-2012, 11:21 PM
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This is such a waste of money and dumb.. it is off the charts.. this guy will be mixing paint in the local HD within a year..
I say mixing paint because he doesn't have the knowledge to work the electrical dept... |
Well did you read his explanation? He has a reason for doing it.
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05-04-2012, 11:23 PM
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Your welcome.
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05-05-2012, 12:36 AM
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This is such a waste of money and dumb.. it is off the charts.. this guy will be mixing paint in the local HD within a year..
I say mixing paint because he doesn't have the knowledge to work the electrical dept... |
And this is coming from a guy who buries pvc boxes in customers yards, and then draws them a map in case they need to find the corroded splices he made at a later date. Oh, and he utilizes a pricing method based on the "going rate"......
I been in business close to thirty years buckaroo, how about you?
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05-05-2012, 04:57 AM
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This is such a waste of money and dumb.. it is off the charts.. this guy will be mixing paint in the local HD within a year..
I say mixing paint because he doesn't have the knowledge to work the electrical dept... |
You are an idiot. 
I may think Macmike wears too much tin foil but I have no doubt at all about his ability to wire and run a bussness. 
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05-05-2012, 12:25 PM
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This could be an inherited trait. The guy who I apprenticed under ran a huge electrical, plumbing, ac, and general engineering/ construction company. Near the end of his working career and life he started subscribing to UFO magazines and used to try to convince me about all the stories contained within them......
At eighteen to twenty three years old I used to think he went off his rocker...
But he was one hell of a smart business man and knew just about everything there was to electrical and all the other trades I mentioned above.
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