brother

Ive this topic up before sometime before. Just wanted to get opinions here.

You know they sell the '3 prong to 2 prong' adapters for when people want to plug into 2 wire outlets.
The issue is that these 'adapters' are suppose to be wired to the 'metal' faceplate to help provide a ground path. Problems is that more often than not, most of these old 2 wire outlets do have a grounding system there at the box (then one can install a 3 wire receptacle).

Do you think they should be illegal as they give the user a 'false sense' of security to use their equipment as most people dont know or dont care about the ground being connected. They just want to be able plug into the 2 wire receptacle.

So , should they be illegal?

HARRY304E

Yes they should

TOOL_5150

No.

They could always just tie the neutral and ground together anyway.. it all goes to the same place eventually.

~Matt

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electricmanscott

The user in most cases doesn't know or care what or why with these things.

When used properly they are fine.

Bob Badger

We should also make knifes and forks illegal as people stick them into toasters and get shocks.


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drsparky

All your law would do is get people to cut off the ground pin. Why should the government control any more of our lives, do you think we need a government nanny state?

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brian john

Not only NO, BUT HELL NO!

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480sparky

So let's take 406.3(D)(3)(c) out of the codebook as well. Seeing that grounded receptacle provides that same false sense of security.

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bobelectric

I just noticed today,the ground pin is missing from my sawzall plug.

micromind

Possibly they should still be legal, but come with GFI protection.

Before I can form an opinion, I'd need to see accurate statistics on shocks and deaths that using these in non-grounded receptacles has caused. ACCURATE statistics.....not ones slanted by some idiot trying to force his beliefs on me.

I suspect the death/injury rate is very low.

Rob

danickstr

Bob pulled the thank you trigger, now I know the apocalypse is near.

On a GFCI (that is working properly, mind you) it is a non-issue, but in a wet location on a non-insulated tool, it may be a legit hazard for an extension cord, since that is where I see them used the most.

But coincidentally, wet locations are GFI controlled by current code, so there ya go.

I do have a lot of tools, BTw that do not have a ground prong, so they must ground through the neutral(the body/case, I mean)

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Jlarson

I realized the vast majority of my corded stuff and extention cords are missing ground pins. And really I don't care, and actually a few things are missing them cause I broke them off cause I needed to plug into a 2 prong outlet, no adapter needed then.

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