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Old 11-14-2012, 06:58 PM   #1
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Smart meters installed this weekend.
1 fire and 3 bad main breakers since. Hmmmm.
What do you guys think about smart meters?
I've opted out (for now at least) at my own home.
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Old 11-14-2012, 07:06 PM   #2
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I love fires. I've got one on my own home for 2 mos now. I have a 3r fused disco next to it for my service, thinking about putting a heat detector/shunt trip on it. Maybe some fire supression. the tin foil hat keeps the radiation from causing hallucinations so far.
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Smart meters installed this weekend.
1 fire and 3 bad main breakers since. Hmmmm.
What do you guys think about smart meters?
I've opted out (for now at least) at my own home.
When the Co-op people changed mine out a few years ago they simply jerked the old out and slammed the smart meter in as fast as they could, thankfully it was in the fall and not much load. But I could easily imagine what could happen if the demand was150 amps or so with a device not designed to make or break.
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The problems have nothing to do with the smart meters. The same problems would have occurred if the conventional meter had been replaced with another conventional meter. The connections in the meter can and at the breaker bus were marginal to start with and the mechanical movement from the meter replacement was just the last straw.
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The problems have nothing to do with the smart meters. The same problems would have occurred if the conventional meter had been replaced with another conventional meter.
Thank you for injecting commonsense into this.

It seems smart meters take the blame for everything from increased customer bills to the cause of hurricane Sandy.
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The problems have nothing to do with the smart meters. The same problems would have occurred if the conventional meter had been replaced with another conventional meter. The connections in the meter can and at the breaker bus were marginal to start with and the mechanical movement from the meter replacement was just the last straw.
While I tend to agree with you, our local POCO is accepting fault to a degree

http://articles.philly.com/2012-09-1...ers-new-meters
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The problems have nothing to do with the smart meters. The same problems would have occurred if the conventional meter had been replaced with another conventional meter. The connections in the meter can and at the breaker bus were marginal to start with and the mechanical movement from the meter replacement was just the last straw.
Our complaint is that the tabs on the new meters are thinner, about 1/2 the thickness, than the old meters.
If the tabs do not have really good spring action left in them, they cook off when people start turning on their heaters in the winter.

Plumbers seem to get lots of stoppage calls on Thanksgiving
We get calls when the heaters come on for the first time
The AC guys get their calls when its gets into the low 90s here
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Talked to a number of poco contractors (they farm out the installs) who are happening upon some rather obnoxious metering equipment

Unfortunately, they've all been told to wear the blinders, and simply do the swap out

So here we have a golden opportunity to address some serious metering issues that will go completely unnoticed , at least by the poco's meter readers, now

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Talked to a number of poco contractors (they farm out the installs) who are happening upon some rather obnoxious metering equipment

Unfortunately, they've all been told to wear the blinders, and simply do the swap out

So here we have a golden opportunity to address some serious metering issues that will go completely unnoticed , at least by the poco's meter readers, now

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What is your solution and who will pay for it?
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Our complaint is that the tabs on the new meters are thinner, about 1/2 the thickness, than the old meters.
Are they half as thick as any meter or just half as thick as old meters?

In other words if a new dumb meter was installed would the situation be any diffrent?

I guess I am just a bit tired of all the BS around the web about smart meters. Some folks think they emit dangerous fields and devulge your family secrets.
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Some folks think they emit dangerous fields and devulge your family secrets.


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What is your solution and who will pay for it?

a very good question BBQ

and there is the spectre of liability as well

some of these contractors are yankin' meters i never would touch (i'll cut off an OH service first) , and have stories about the 'lug that came with it'

which they actually try to take off/place on live....

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I guess I am just a bit tired of all the BS around the web about smart meters. Some folks think they emit dangerous fields and devulge your family secrets.
you just need to get in touch with your inner Cletis BBQ....~CS~
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they farm out the meters here too. I casually debriefed the guy who was doing our block. Apparently they give them a class (one day ?) that teaches them everything they need to know. My guy had a face shield, gloves (he didn't know what rating was), glove protectors, and some hand tools. He wasn't an electrician or a lineman. Don't know what they are paying em, but I'm guessing it's by the meter or they have a quota.
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you just need to get in touch with your inner Cletis BBQ....~CS~
I may have some inner eejack, maybe even some inner ~CS~ but there is no way I have any inner Cletis.
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I may have some inner eejack, maybe even some inner ~CS~ but there is no way I have any inner Cletis.
Isnt the male cletis up your arse or is that the male D-spot?
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they farm out the meters here too. I casually debriefed the guy who was doing our block. Apparently they give them a class (one day ?) that teaches them everything they need to know. My guy had a face shield, gloves (he didn't know what rating was), glove protectors, and some hand tools. He wasn't an electrician or a lineman. Don't know what they are paying em, but I'm guessing it's by the meter or they have a quota.
another distress call today...smart meter man......lug stuck....fire......

and i heard it was by the meter here WL


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another distress call today...smart meter man.
Another smart meter controlling someones thoughts or was it just letting the IRS know the residents where tax cheats?
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well it knew , because that's how smart it is!

i can hardly wait for the talking variety.......


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The problems have nothing to do with the smart meters. The same problems would have occurred if the conventional meter had been replaced with another conventional meter. The connections in the meter can and at the breaker bus were marginal to start with and the mechanical movement from the meter replacement was just the last straw.
I agree
Was just wondering what others thought about them
I don't think the meter itself was the cause of the fire/bad breakers

I'm just not embracing one more way to be charged and controlled more than we already are
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