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06-28-2008, 08:11 AM
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Solar Panels
Has anyone installed solar panels and panels before. Id like to install solar panels and a back up power system on my roof.
I was wondering if its worth the investment!
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06-28-2008, 08:26 AM
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Happy as a Goat herd.
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It is worth it in my opinon & you can get them for free, I have a link for a guy in the states which I will try to find & post up for you.
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06-28-2008, 08:27 AM
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NO help here in 1984 I worked on and tested one of the first large arrays, Cost was in the millions for 145 KW array pay back period exceed 100 years. But this was a university and research that hopefully leads to new higher output panels.
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06-28-2008, 08:54 AM
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Happy as a Goat herd.
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I cant find the link, but the guy states that you can get them from the suppliers of roadside SP's, as these get damaged & are deemed unsafe.
But on the roof of your house they will be fine, do a search see what you can find.
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06-28-2008, 02:16 PM
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One thing to watch out for is the local building department. Most, if not all, require permits for solar installations, and very few are even slightly competent with new technology.
A couple of years ago I looked into a solar array, researched the components, got a few quotes from suppliers, and talked with the POCO. All was well until I called the local building department. Due to their obvious arrogant incompetence, I decided not to risk them turning my $40,000 three week project into a $200,000 six month nightmare.
Sadly, I don't have a solar system and consequently, have lost all interest in anything green.
Rob
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06-28-2008, 10:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by micromind
Sadly, I don't have a solar system and consequently, have lost all interest in anything green.
Rob
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That is too bad. I would love the opportunity to install a solar system. I think it would be a great learning experience!!!
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06-29-2008, 12:12 AM
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Other than a solar battery charger or garden lighting I don't think the systems out there are worth the investment at this point in time.
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06-29-2008, 01:36 AM
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newbie sparks
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We sub for SolarWorks inc., they sell, design, and install the panels we do everything from the j-box on the roof down. We've done a 33kw, a 25kw and probably 25 residential systems ranging from 2kw up to a 10kw next tuesday.
Boss had the opportunity to start doing turn key service but we both don't see a point in installing the panels ourselves... its easier to let somebody else do all the paper work for the rebates too.
As for cost/benifit, average resi system (utility interactive, not stand alone) will cost the H.O. about 25 grand so they can expect a 7 to 10 year pay back.
With a stand alone all the extra cost of batteries and extra invertes isn't part of the rebates and tax credits so that can add up quick. but I recently heard about an interactive/stand alone we did last year that worked perfectly when the guy lost power for 3 days. between the panels and batteries he never lost power.
pics of a few I've done
33KW Solar install
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06-29-2008, 05:40 AM
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Happy as a Goat herd.
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Nice work there aric, are residentials only up to 10Kw or can you go higher up the scale?
I ask because I want to build my own house one day and want to be totally off the grid, not even selling any surplus back to the local.
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06-29-2008, 01:32 PM
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newbie sparks
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above 10kw... if you can afford it. I know in CT the state rebates only go up to 6kw for resi, H.O. just picks up the rest.
and if your going stand alone I don't think you'd need to go any bigger than 6kw with batteries.
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06-29-2008, 07:17 PM
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Happy as a Goat herd.
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Really,that is very interesting news indeed, thankyou aric.
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07-01-2008, 03:56 PM
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07-01-2008, 04:30 PM
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I'd look into a home wind turbine instead of solar for you since you get a good amount of wind and they are cheaper. Look at the helix type units.
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07-01-2008, 05:28 PM
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newbie sparks
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nice looking work headrec, those SMA inverters?
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07-01-2008, 06:17 PM
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"A" inside wireman
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Definetly a cool looking job there bud.
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07-01-2008, 08:02 PM
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Sparky
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I am pretty sure they were SMA inverters.
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07-01-2008, 08:24 PM
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Solar install questions
Can't find that other thread, so.....
Someone put up pictures of some solar installs they did.
It shows a small meter pan, and what looks like 3/4" EMT running to it.
So my questions are:
Is there another meter (say 200A) somewhere else?
Does anyone have a diagram how they are wired (where disconnects, inverter, meter, etc go)
Just curious, never even saw one in person
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07-01-2008, 10:16 PM
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newbie sparks
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the meter we put next to the inverter is to keep a hard record of production.
no one line but,
solar panels -> DC disco -> fused DC combiner -> inverter -> meter -> AC disco (some states require an outside disco too) -> service (either a breaker in panel or fused line tie)
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07-01-2008, 10:20 PM
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newbie sparks
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headrec is that DC and AC in the same trough?
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07-02-2008, 04:08 AM
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I like this thread, a lot of good installs & very good questions & answers.
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