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Old 05-22-2009, 11:53 AM   #1
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We have had problems with squirrels taking all the bird food from our bird feeder.
I have a bird feeder rigged electrically, controlled by the front porch light switch. I built a two rail hot and neutral all around the the perch area of the feeder. Stripped #12 solid wire. Its an open ended system with no load. The subject becomes the load when touching both conductors.

It works well if you can catch the subject in action (on the feeder). The problem is it just shocks the hell out of them but does not kill. I want complete destruction or serious bodily injury. Any suggestions as to how to make this more deadly. I am thinking of a small load attached to the open end. This would increase the current draw, but not sure if it will make any difference. Thanks in Advance.......John

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Are we sure this is something that should be discussed in an open forum?

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Old 05-22-2009, 12:29 PM   #3
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Your call Speedy. It's electrical related. And interesting to say the least. IHMO.
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LOL why not use an ignition coil from a car wired to a blinker relay. That will scare them off, and it won't kill them.
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LOL why not use an ignition coil from a car wired to a blinker relay. That will scare them off, and it won't kill them.
You are missing the point. They are already scared. Its not good enough. They have short memories.
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I know if someone did something like that around here, you would be arrested and probably jailed for a little while.
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I know if someone did something like that around here, you would be arrested and probably jailed for a little while.
i agree, this would not be smart. i am way against animal cruelty. i understand deterrence, but john, you will be crossing the line. animal cruelty carries 6 months to a year, but its your call. if i was your neighbor, you would be in jail.
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I live way out in the country and we have no such ordinances. Squirrels are considered pests and are nuisances. There is not even a law regarding hunting them. As many as you can shoot. I do not hunt either. My neighbor is a county cop and he is wanting me to build him one too.
I love animals too. I hate rats.
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Bump it up to 220
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I will stay out of the ethical theory, and only participate in a purely electrical function. How about a control transformer that bumps the 120 up to 480? Put that on the light switch and results are sure to follow...
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This is the type of thing that ends up leading to a Darwin Award.
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This is the type of thing that ends up leading to a Darwin Award.

Yea...it rains, lightswitch gets left on, someone goes to put bird food in the feeder and POOF
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No, stupidity should not be encouraged. Forgetting the ethical/moral aspect, putting live, open conductors as a trap is extremely dangerous and irresponsible at best.
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No, stupidity should not be encouraged. Forgetting the ethical/moral aspect, putting live, open conductors as a trap is extremely dangerous and irresponsible at best.
Electric fences? Cattle Prods? tasers? Also pigeon scare tactics use electricity.
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Electric fences? Cattle Prods? tasers? Also pigeon scare tactics use electricity.

You're comparing apples to oranges. Those things use high voltage and very low current. It's the current that kills, you know.

120 volts at 20 amps can deliver a lethal amount of current.
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....... How about a control transformer that bumps the 120 up to 480? ......
You guys just aren't thinking outside the box.

Neon sign transformer.
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Put the bulb back in the porch light. Get a Ruger Mk II .22 for about $250.
I had a problem with red squirrels in my barn and feeders. Sometimes a simple solution is best. Seven .22 bullets seven dead squirrels. The tails were used for tying fishing flies; I left the bodies on a snow bank for the ravens and crows. They were eaten by the end of the day. A Squirrel does an incredible amount of destruction if left alone. We had an owl move into the hay loft the next year; it keeps all the vermin in check.
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Put the bulb back in the porch light. Get a Ruger Mk II .22 for about $250.
I had a problem with red squirrels in my barn and feeders. Sometimes a simple solution is best. Seven .22 bullets seven dead squirrels. The tails were used for tying fishing flies; I left the bodies on a snow bank for the ravens and crows. They were eaten by the end of the day. A Squirrel does an incredible amount of destruction if left alone. We had an owl move into the hay loft the next year; it keeps all the vermin in check.
A paintball gun will kill a squirrel, and if you miss Art Deco.

As for apple and oranges I did not say use line voltage I was just saying there are those that use electricity in less that favorable causes.

I read in Time magazine 10 years ago the only difference in the tortures of today compared to the Spanish Inquisition is we now have electricity.
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Don't let the party poopers get you down J.V.

Like grandma used to say: "I don't want to live in a country where a person can't electrocute a woodchuck, chipmunk, or squirrel with line voltage and open conductors..."

I didn't understand it as a kid, but I guess I know what she meant now.
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Great thread!

Using line voltage is just stupid.

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