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Old 02-07-2012, 10:09 PM   #21
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I also did one about a month ago that was actually in the basement. I did not have it inspected do you think it would of passed? The HO had a 40 foot cord and window close by.
Dude your a hack. Because the customer wanted it there you put it there? If I didn't want GFI by the sink would you do that also. Jesus

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Dude your a hack. Because the customer wanted it there you put it there? If I didn't want GFI by the sink would you do that also. Jesus
Where does it say in the code that in can not be in basement?
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The inspector would have to pull something from the NEC that requires that they be listed. I fail to see that requirement. Remember, after all, the UL is just a company. Not the government.

It could simply be that they are UL tested just to prove to some hard ass inspectors that they have been examined by the UL. They probably aren't listed because I can't seem to find a UL White Book category they'd fit in.
I'm going to open a can of worms with this one, But what is required to be UL listed? I always thought anything we install must be.
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I'm going to open a can of worms with this one, But what is required to be UL listed? I always thought anything we install must be.
Nothing is required to be UL listed.
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Nothing is required to be UL listed.

Ive installed terminal blocks that had to be taken out and replaced because they went UL listed.
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so i asked about these interlocks in another thread and didnt get any responces

I have a few questions

when you guys install these are you also supplying the generators?

If not, do you tell the homeowner to not get one with full panel GFCI protection?

Do you tell the homeowner not to get a generator with the neutral bonded? (i think most are)

With the 4 wire gen cord and neutral bonded at the main panel and gen, do you have any concerns with objectionable curent on the ground?
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so i asked about these interlocks in another thread and didnt get any responces

I have a few questions

when you guys install these are you also supplying the generators?

If not, do you tell the homeowner to not get one with full panel GFCI protection?

Do you tell the homeowner not to get a generator with the neutral bonded? (i think most are)

With the 4 wire gen cord and neutral bonded at the main panel and gen, do you have any concerns with objectionable curent on the ground?
really? anybody have any thoughts on this, or am i missing something?
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Ive installed terminal blocks that had to be taken out and replaced because they went UL listed.
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That are sold on http://www.interlockkit.com/ are UL tested but not UL listed and was told by a buddy of mine that a inspector could fail them with no questions asked? Just wondering if anyone here ever had one of these installs shot down?
They are not UL tested, nor listed.

They were tested/evaluated by Wyle Laboratories, a different NRTL.

A competitor to UL as it were, similar to GE and Square D being competitors.

UL 67 is mentioned in their report as a standard reference.

And, no, I have never had one of my installations turned down when using this product.
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so i asked about these interlocks in another thread and didnt get any responces

I have a few questions

when you guys install these are you also supplying the generators?

If not, do you tell the homeowner to not get one with full panel GFCI protection?

Do you tell the homeowner not to get a generator with the neutral bonded? (i think most are)

With the 4 wire gen cord and neutral bonded at the main panel and gen, do you have any concerns with objectionable curent on the ground?
4 questions, just 4 questions
we go on an on an on about tool bags and boots and sub contractors
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I saw them and just thought they were silly questions.

99.9% of new generators under 7500w have a L14-30r on it.
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Thanks, i didnt realize it was such a silly question. I am aware that most have a L14-30r.

I thought that it would be an issue with the double bonding when using the interlock kits on the panel
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Thanks, i didnt realize it was such a silly question. I am aware that most have a L14-30r.

I thought that it would be an issue with the double bonding when using the interlock kits on the panel
You are correct and any generators where the OCP is GFCI protected causes a issue.
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Red sticker today saying interlock kit not approved! I was not there but this is what the home owner told me. Waiting to hear from inspector but how could the last 10 I did pass inspection and this one didn't ? Really aggravates me
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Red sticker today saying interlock kit not approved! I was not there but this is what the home owner told me. Waiting to hear from inspector but how could the last 10 I did pass inspection and this one didn't ? Really aggravates me
The inspector was drunk?
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What course of action should I take? Really not trying to toot my own horn but this is my first failed inspection in the 2 years I have been in business. I knew this day would come but not for something I am pretty sure is code compliant
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I'd think they'd complain that its not listed...but website says its tested to ul standards by wyle. So maybe if wyle gets somekind of endorsement from the ul, they could be approved... what shape was the panel in that you got a red flag on?
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What course of action should I take? Really not trying to toot my own horn but this is my first failed inspection in the 2 years I have been in business. I knew this day would come but not for something I am pretty sure is code compliant
Ask him WTF he's talking about and go from there.
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Red sticker today saying interlock kit not approved! I was not there but this is what the home owner told me. Waiting to hear from inspector but how could the last 10 I did pass inspection and this one didn't ? Really aggravates me
If the inspector actually said they were "not approved" it means the AHJ (him/her or their boss) does not approve it.

Testing Labs list (among other things), AHJ's approved.

Could be they don't like the idea that if the panel face is removed, a safety problem exists.
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I'd contact the DCA, oh and there is a difference between listed and tested. If its not ul listed that could pose a problem.

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