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04-16-2012, 05:31 PM
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We are really interested in your company...
I get a phone call the other day. It was generac trying to sign us up as a dealer. I listened to her talk. When she was done I told her we sell Kohlers and had no interest in selling generacs. I explained I could buy one online with no investment in parts training etc. I asked if they has remote monitoring.....well no....I asked what my cost would be on the units. It's more than what we pay for Kohlers. I think I'll pass.... 
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04-16-2012, 05:34 PM
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What schooling does Kohler make you take to be a service dealer..
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04-16-2012, 05:34 PM
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Bulldog, what Kohler unit do you use that's the equivalent of a Generac Guardian 20Kw with a 200 ATS?
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Pretty sure Generac has a remote device tho.
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04-16-2012, 05:40 PM
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I think he meant he could remotely monitor his customer's units.
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04-16-2012, 05:41 PM
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Bulldog, what Kohler unit do you use that's the equivalent of a Generac Guardian 20Kw with a 200 ATS?
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Pretty sure Generac has a remote device tho.
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20RESA is a 18kw NG / 20kw LP. Its new for 2012. It replaced the 20RES I use the RXT ATS either 200a or 100a and LCM load shed if needed.
Generacs remote device does not let you start the genset or operate a pim module from anywhere you have an internet connection.
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04-16-2012, 05:49 PM
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20RESA is a 18kw NG / 20kw LP. Its new for 2012. It replaced the 20RES I use the RXT ATS either 200a or 100a and LCM load shed if needed.
Generacs remote device does not let you start the genset or operate a pim module from anywhere you have an internet connection.
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Just a matter of time before GENERAC copy's the design since they already copied the Kohler "look" for their air cooled units..
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04-16-2012, 05:51 PM
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Not that I feel that is a huge loss not having that feature but l'd like install a Kohler to see what its like. I like the hydraulic valve lifters. I would love to see whether it really is cheaper. Love to compare price lists. Shoot me a pm if you'd like.
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04-16-2012, 05:52 PM
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What schooling does Kohler make you take to be a service dealer..
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A couple schools my distributor offers nearby. I am signed up for them but they haven't set dates yet.
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04-16-2012, 05:54 PM
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A couple schools my distributor offers nearby. I am signed up for them but they haven't set dates yet.
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Do they charge $1000.00 like Generac for school and make you spend another $1200.00 for parts you might never need.. 
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04-16-2012, 05:59 PM
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04-16-2012, 06:01 PM
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So what do they charge so I can write to Generac and tell them a few things.. 
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04-16-2012, 06:11 PM
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So what do they charge so I can write to Generac and tell them a few things.. |
My distributor told me one is cheap one is a little more.
You don't have to write....I the lady from generac for you when she called.
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04-16-2012, 06:21 PM
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Tomorrow I have my kohler technical training class. 
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04-16-2012, 06:27 PM
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i thought with Generac, you just need to buy a min. of one unit a year and buy the service parts as needed with an initial $250 for service parts. Is this true?
i did a compare on Norwall, and the only real diff. is fuel used at full load. (LP) Besides a couple hundred bucks in price.
How does the remote monitor wire up on the Kohler?
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04-16-2012, 06:28 PM
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Tomorrow I have my kohler technical training class. |
How much is it costing you and how often do you have to take the refresher course..
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04-16-2012, 06:35 PM
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How much is it costing you and how often do you have to take the refresher course..
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The class is $125.00. No initial investment other than some time for a sales and marketing meeting. I'll let you know as I learn more.
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04-16-2012, 06:37 PM
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i thought with Generac, you just need to buy a min. of one unit a year and buy the service parts as needed with an initial $250 for service parts. Is this true?
i did a compare on Norwall, and the only real diff. is fuel used at full load. (LP) Besides a couple hundred bucks in price.
How does the remote monitor wire up on the Kohler?
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I think the parts were $1200 and training over a grand and its not close to us. The remote monitoring is called OnCue. It requires a network cable from customers router to generator. You and your customers download the software. Google it...
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04-16-2012, 06:40 PM
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I think the parts were $1200 and training over a grand and its not close to us. The remote monitoring is called OnCue. It requires a network cable from customers router to generator. You and your customers download the software. Google it... |
Kohler training of $1000.00?
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04-16-2012, 06:42 PM
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i'm ET'ing it.
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04-16-2012, 06:42 PM
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Kohler training of $1000.00?
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No generac was. Kohlers service class is cheap the other one is a few hundred because they fly the trainer here I'm told.
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