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Old 09-12-2012, 09:11 AM   #21
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In addition to the green cloth braided jacket romex, there is also green thermoplastic jacketed cable from the 70's made by Phelps-Dodge.
We had cloth covered Romex, many different colors .

Red , Green , Blue , Silver , Gold , Brown , Orange , maybe other colors too.

It was called NMD 3.

Still see some in older houses !
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Old 09-12-2012, 06:27 PM   #22
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I've seen in in houses built in the early 60's at which point they began to switch over to plastic sheathed.
Please give us the complete history of romex wire.
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Please give us the complete history of romex wire.
How about you stop being a tool instead.
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At least my not a troll like you.
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Gotta love the tar cloth romex. After doing a panel change my hands end up looking like I worked all day in a coal mine. When my Grandfather started in the trade, he installed that stuff brand new.

Never seen lead covered Romex, but have seen lead filled BX. It's what they used for wiring in wet locations. Pretty clever, and beats the hell out of burying romex!

As far as I know, asbestos was only used to insulate wire for high temp installations, such as early recessed cans and for wiring boilers and the like. I may even know how to strip asbestos insulated wire. You don't use a regular pair of strippers, you use your linemans and squeeze around the end of the wire for the length you want to strip. Just crimp around the wire a few times, and the the insulation will twist right off with a nice clean "cut".
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Early 60's, probably a trademark for it being grounded romex, just like Southwire changed it's color to baby blue at the rise of NM-B
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In addition to the green cloth braided jacket romex, there is also green thermoplastic jacketed cable from the 70's made by Phelps-Dodge.

That cable goes back into the late 1960's.
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We had cloth covered Romex, many different colors .

Red , Green , Blue , Silver , Gold , Brown , Orange , maybe other colors too.

It was called NMD 3.

Still see some in older houses !
I've seen Black, Gray and Green cloth colored Romex before. Would love to see the others.
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Early 60's, probably a trademark for it being grounded romex, just like Southwire changed it's color to baby blue at the rise of NM-B
I've seen that
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ah yes, i have the same kind in my house. i forget how the sheathings made, but i have
12-2. Im 90% positive its from late 50s early 60s. I still have the nongrounding type receptacles :S
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Oh yeah, spent many, many hours playing with that type of old romex and others on many, many service entrances. Fun stuff. I always had wondered if there was asbestos in any of the old cloth type wire insulation.
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Have you ever seen aluminum 12-2 from the 70's?? Now that is fun. Wires all break off or burn off at the outlet, etc.
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I've seen it a few times. I ran into lead covered romex only once.
I did some work in a house with leaded romex could you imagine lugging a full 250' roll of that stuff up 3 flights of stairs.
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Have you ever seen aluminum 12-2 from the 70's?? Now that is fun. Wires all break off or burn off at the outlet, etc.
My house is originally all 12-2 aluminum, no problemo.
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My whole house was wired with that stuff. I've changed a lot of it out over the last few years when adding something new. It has always been in good shape though.
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Have you ever seen aluminum 12-2 from the 70's?? Now that is fun. Wires all break off or burn off at the outlet, etc.
I saw it one time when I was an apprentice. We were doing a service change and we found one circuit that was aluminum. It was a short run in a garage so we changed it out for free. The JW I was with said it was a hazard and didn't want to leave it. Homeowner was happy.
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I saw it one time when I was an apprentice. We were doing a service change and we found one circuit that was aluminum. It was a short run in a garage so we changed it out for free. The JW I was with said it was a hazard and didn't want to leave it. Homeowner was happy.
My last house was wired with 12/2 aluminum. No problems at all. All devices were al/cu compatible and terminations were serviced regularly. Ended up changing it all out because insurance company was no longer going to insure it.
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My house was built in 56' there was some of that green cloth type in the house previously, that I believe to have been original. There was some green romex as well that was put in around '76 or so but it was plastic, not cloth. Then, there was some green UF as well, I believe it was installed sometime in the late 70's=early 80's.

The green romex had a better ground then the white stuff.
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