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drsparky · 11-04-2009, 06:31 PM

Math is important everyday on the job.

Black4Truck · 11-04-2009, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 480sparky

Are computer keyboards these days made without Shift and punctuation keys?

Are you insinuating that (1) sentence containing (94) words is missing a few punctuation points

480sparky · 11-04-2009, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Black4Truck

Are you insinuating that (1) sentence containing (94) words is missing a few punctuation points

as well as some letters that need capitalization it absolutely astounds me that there are so many young people out there who dont have the basic skills to communicate and yet they say the are so musunderstood seems to me that if they took some basic typing courses thay might be able to express themselves in a way others can comprehend without having to resort to manually dissect their written words sort through them and then rearrange them into more coherent sentences i mean really is this the attitude this country is becoming is this the future if so elquida has nothing to do but sit back and keep their powder dry and we will destroy ourselves in short order btw i like the way you count words do you do that on a word processor and how accurate is it tonights the night i shall be talking about of flu the subject of word association football this is a technique out a living much used in the practice makes perfect of psychoanalysister and brother and one that has occupied piper the majority rule of my attention squad by the right number one two three four the last five years to the memory it is quite remarkable baker charlie how much the millers son this socalled while you were out word association immigrants problems influences the manner from heaven in which we sleek it cowering timrous beasties all american speke the famous explorer and the really well that is surprising partner in crime is that a lot and his wife of the lions feeding time we may be c d e effectively quite unaware of the fact or fiction section of the watford public library that we are even doing it is a far far better thing that I do now then now then whats going onward christian barnard the famous hearty part of the lettuce now praise famous mental homes for loonies like me and so on the button my contention causing all the headaches is that unless we take into account of monte cristo in our thinking george the fifth this phenomenon the other hand we shall not be able satisfact or fiction section of the watford public library againily to understand to attention when I'm talking to you and stop laughing about human nature mans psychological make up some story the wifell believe and hence the very meaning of life itselfish bastard ill kick him in the balls pond road

Black4Truck · 11-04-2009, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 480sparky

as well as some letters that need capitalization it absolutely astounds me that there are so many young people out there who dont have the basic skills to communicate and yet they say the are so musunderstood seems to me that if they took some basic typing courses thay might be able to express themselves in a way others can comprehend without having to resort to manually dissect their written words sort through them and then rearrange them into more coherent sentences i mean really is this the attitude this country is becoming is this the future if so elquida has nothing to do but sit back and keep their powder dry and we will destroy ourselves in short order btw i like the way you count words do you do that on a word processor and how accurate is it

I agree with you 100%.. and you can't fix stupid

NolaTigaBait · 11-04-2009, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 480sparky

as well as some letters that need capitalization it absolutely astounds me that there are so many young people out there who dont have the basic skills to communicate and yet they say the are so musunderstood seems to me that if they took some basic typing courses thay might be able to express themselves in a way others can comprehend without having to resort to manually dissect their written words sort through them and then rearrange them into more coherent sentences i mean really is this the attitude this country is becoming is this the future if so elquida has nothing to do but sit back and keep their powder dry and we will destroy ourselves in short order btw i like the way you count words do you do that on a word processor and how accurate is it tonights the night i shall be talking about of flu the subject of word association football this is a technique out a living much used in the practice makes perfect of psychoanalysister and brother and one that has occupied piper the majority rule of my attention squad by the right number one two three four the last five years to the memory it is quite remarkable baker charlie how much the millers son this socalled while you were out word association immigrants problems influences the manner from heaven in which we sleek it cowering timrous beasties all american speke the famous explorer and the really well that is surprising partner in crime is that a lot and his wife of the lions feeding time we may be c d e effectively quite unaware of the fact or fiction section of the watford public library that we are even doing it is a far far better thing that I do now then now then whats going onward christian barnard the famous hearty part of the lettuce now praise famous mental homes for loonies like me and so on the button my contention causing all the headaches is that unless we take into account of monte cristo in our thinking george the fifth this phenomenon the other hand we shall not be able satisfact or fiction section of the watford public library againily to understand to attention when I'm talking to you and stop laughing about human nature mans psychological make up some story the wifell believe and hence the very meaning of life itselfish bastard ill kick him in the balls pond road

That hurt my face to read.

480sparky · 11-04-2009, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by NolaTigaBait

That hurt my face to read.

Maybe this will help.

YouTube Video

BuzzKill · 11-04-2009, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 480sparky

Maybe this will help.

YouTube Video

I hate the English.

RUSSIAN · 11-04-2009, 10:19 PM

I never took algebra, which is a requirement in my local, as with most locals, but having 4000 hrs on the job allowed me to bypass that requirement. Try looking into that

JTMEYER · 11-04-2009, 10:23 PM

I don't know how to say this without it sounding anti-union, which is not my intent. But to me, any organization that is more concerned with a peice of paper than a persons real skills is not for me. The same thing happened to a freind of mine, but they waited till test day, after he had taken a day off work and payed the test fee, to tell him.

EDM · 11-04-2009, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JTMEYER

I don't know how to say this without it sounding anti-union, which is not my intent. But to me, any organization that is more concerned with a peice of paper than a persons real skills is not for me. The same thing happened to a freind of mine, but they waited till test day, after he had taken a day off work and payed the test fee, to tell him.

It's not that a piece of paper makes a big deal.

The fact is that they have to have a set standard, and they (rightly so) decided that algebra is a requirement. They have to follow that guideline.

There are a lot of issues with letting people into a union, they are simply trying to limit liability for lawsuits, etc.

ryanapplequist · 11-04-2009, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 480sparky

as well as some letters that need capitalization it absolutely astounds me that there are so many young people out there who dont have the basic skills to communicate and yet they say the are so musunderstood seems to me that if they took some basic typing courses thay might be able to express themselves in a way others can comprehend without having to resort to manually dissect their written words sort through them and then rearrange them into more coherent sentences i mean really is this the attitude this country is becoming is this the future if so elquida has nothing to do but sit back and keep their powder dry and we will destroy ourselves in short order btw i like the way you count words do you do that on a word processor and how accurate is it tonights the night i shall be talking about of flu the subject of word association football this is a technique out a living much used in the practice makes perfect of psychoanalysister and brother and one that has occupied piper the majority rule of my attention squad by the right number one two three four the last five years to the memory it is quite remarkable baker charlie how much the millers son this socalled while you were out word association immigrants problems influences the manner from heaven in which we sleek it cowering timrous beasties all american speke the famous explorer and the really well that is surprising partner in crime is that a lot and his wife of the lions feeding time we may be c d e effectively quite unaware of the fact or fiction section of the watford public library that we are even doing it is a far far better thing that I do now then now then whats going onward christian barnard the famous hearty part of the lettuce now praise famous mental homes for loonies like me and so on the button my contention causing all the headaches is that unless we take into account of monte cristo in our thinking george the fifth this phenomenon the other hand we shall not be able satisfact or fiction section of the watford public library againily to understand to attention when I'm talking to you and stop laughing about human nature mans psychological make up some story the wifell believe and hence the very meaning of life itselfish bastard ill kick him in the balls pond road

sparky for one i have a very wide vocabulary and i speak very well nolabama can back me up on that . point two i am a 25 year old grown man i am not some dumb 16 year old kid that hides in his room listening to death metal wears black make-up cuts himself and claims to be misunderstood. third point just because i let my words flow from my mind to my finger tips and on to the screen you are saying i lack basic communication skills. i took computer/typing classes the whole 3 years i was in high school. fourth and final point who are you to judge me do you have a masters in english i think not if you did you would be teaching at a university so dont go getting all metaphysical.

nolabama · 11-04-2009, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ryanapplequist

sparky for one i have a very wide vocabulary and i speak very well nolabama can back me up on that

hey ryan - your right you do have a wide vocabulary
but texting style of writing here drives some people crazy
and btw i have known 480sparky longer than i have known you - sooo... play nice on the electrical forum and dont feed the trolls (not that 480 is a troll)
u will see if you hang out here long enough

Black4Truck · 11-05-2009, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ryanapplequist

sparky for one i have a very wide vocabulary and i speak very well nolabama can back me up on that . point two i am a 25 year old grown man i am not some dumb 16 year old kid that hides in his room listening to death metal wears black make-up cuts himself and claims to be misunderstood. third point just because i let my words flow from my mind to my finger tips and on to the screen you are saying i lack basic communication skills. i took computer/typing classes the whole 3 years i was in high school. fourth and final point who are you to judge me do you have a masters in english i think not if you did you would be teaching at a university so dont go getting all metaphysical.

You were doing fine till you decided to put your thoughts down on a computer screen.

Sorry, but your communication skills suck in plain English

drsparky · 11-05-2009, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ryanapplequist

sparky for one i have a very wide vocabulary and i speak very well nolabama can back me up on that . point two i am a 25 year old grown man i am not some dumb 16 year old kid that hides in his room listening to death metal wears black make-up cuts himself and claims to be misunderstood. third point just because i let my words flow from my mind to my finger tips and on to the screen you are saying i lack basic communication skills. i took computer/typing classes the whole 3 years i was in high school. fourth and final point who are you to judge me do you have a masters in english i think not if you did you would be teaching at a university so dont go getting all metaphysical.

Take it again.

brian john · 11-05-2009, 10:43 AM

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sparky for one i have a very wide vocabulary and i speak very well nolabama can back me up on that . point two i am a 25 year old grown man i am not some dumb 16 year old kid that hides in his room listening to death metal wears black make-up cuts himself and claims to be misunderstood. third point just because i let my words flow from my mind to my finger tips and on to the screen you are saying i lack basic communication skills. i took computer/typing classes the whole 3 years i was in high school. fourth and final point who are you to judge me do you have a masters in english i think not if you did you would be teaching at a university so dont go getting all metaphysical

The point is :
1. There are those here that are very good at typing and English and enjoy correcting others.
2. It is difficult to read post with out proper capitalization and puncutation.
3. I STRUGGLE with typing and grammar, but I try to proof read my post after writing them. Even then i miss spellling, typing errors and grammar.

RIVETER · 11-05-2009, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by brian john

The point is :
1. There are those here that are very good at typing and English and enjoy correcting others.
2. It is difficult to read post with out proper capitalization and puncutation.
3. I STRUGGLE with typing and grammar, but I try to proof read my post after writing them. Even then i miss spellling, typing errors and grammar.

I agree. Even I make mistakes once in a while, but the only reason I know this is that my wife reminds me.

RIVETER · 11-05-2009, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ryanapplequist

guys get this about 4 months ago when i was out of work again i called the local 130 and inquired about joining and i was told i could not because i never passed algebra when i was in high school yes i quit school but i went back and got my ged and have been in the field for 3 years my question is this has anyone heard of this practice anywhere else or is this a common grounds for denial thanks guys for any light yall can shed on this for me

After a couple of days of this thread,I would like to know if your ORIGINAL question ever got answered.

Bendezium · 11-05-2009, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ryanapplequist

guys get this about 4 months ago when i was out of work again i called the local 130 and inquired about joining and i was told i could not because i never passed algebra when i was in high school yes i quit school but i went back and got my ged and have been in the field for 3 years my question is this has anyone heard of this practice anywhere else or is this a common grounds for denial thanks guys for any light yall can shed on this for me

I think HS algebra is required in all locals. I applied at 654 today and if I remember correctly something like 4000 documented hours of work with an electrical contractor can substitute this.

On another note, you really should work on constructing your posts according to basic English rules. There seems to be a great amount of laziness that come over some people when they begin typing on the internet that I just can't understand. I don't expect people to be right in their spelling and grammar 100% of the time, because lord knows I'm not, but if you want to be taken seriously you got to put in at least some care.

ryanapplequist · 11-05-2009, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RIVETER

After a couple of days of this thread,I would like to know if your ORIGINAL question ever got answered.

thank you riveter for remembering where this started before it became a

english lesson. i did get a few good answers wich i appreciated thanks for the input guys.

EDM · 11-05-2009, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ryanapplequist

thank you riveter for remembering where this started before it became a

english lesson. i did get a few good answers wich i appreciated thanks for the input guys.

Honestly, you communicate like a child. If you want to make it in the business you have to act professional.

I'll also tell you, this tough guy attitude you have will not get you anywhere. ESPECIALLY as a new apprentice.