guvnor

Just curious, when you are in the union are you required to own your own truck, and/or your own tools to bring to job sites?

Im going to apply for apprenticeship soon and I have an old Ford F150, im wondering if I should hold on to it in the meantime.

TOOL_5150

You will need your own transportation. As far as tools, they have a very specific tool list that you will be required to have - which really, isnt all that much. Hand tools is about as far as that goes.

~Matt

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brian john

You need reliable transportation for you and your personal tools, those that are requested by the union and a list of those tools should be provided.

Any traveling from job to job on work time should be provided, any tools above the basic hand tools are provided.

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guvnor

Thanks guys.

I knew you needed transportation of some sort, but wasnt sure if you needed to own a "work truck" or not.

Do you find its better or more convenient to own a truck? Like for driving on rough jobs sites or anything? Or is it not really an issue.

al13nw4r3LC76

you mean I'm not supposed to be carrying my GL Hydraulic KO Set that goes up to 4"? ............ JK Imagine the looks that would get you. ha!

brian john

After 12 months with a car at age 17, my primary vehicle has always been a truck or van. Mainly because I destroy cars, with tools, camping gear, kayaks, diving gear, and the like.

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knowshorts

500 pounds of rabbit fit in the back of a 150 a lot better than the back seat of a Geo Metro.

How old is the 150? Early 90's? If it is, keep it. Great truck.

Boneshaker

They don't care how you get to work, you could ride a skate board for all anyone cares as long as you are there at 7:00am with tools in hand.

Toronto Sparky

You bring your own "work truck" and you will not be union for long..
Union guys don't like it when one carries extra tools and/or material in your personal vehicle. It gives you an advantage and that is ani-union.

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Frasbee

Well if everybody else bought the extra tools, nobody would have an advantage.

I think they call that "raising the bar".

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Peter D

"Ford" and "great truck" aren't words that go together.

william1978

They love this type of thing when I worked out of local 379. Not me.

william1978

Amen!!!

Celtic

99% of the time...it's not an issue.
The 1% of time, there is a "paved" road...sometimes it's just 3/4" QP..but a "paved road" nonetheless.


I've seen a guy use one of those little gas powered "razors"....made for a quick trip from the bus/train station...all 200# of him looked pretty dam silly

It's not a question of "like"...it's a question of rules...the rule is: No company material/equipment in personal vehicles "unless paid at the current IRS mileage guidelines".

The question I have is:
When some malcontent breaks into/steals a man's personal vehicle - whose insurance pays....and what do they pay for?
Does the man's ins. pay for the contractors loss?
Does the contractor's ins pay for the man's loss?

It's really a messy situation at best.


I think they would be called contractors
Not exactly....but I see carpenters humping everything from extension cords, skil saws, lasers, ladders, etc to/from their own vehicles.
The way the carpenter's contract is written it seems they are producing various "contractors"...framers, trim men....etc...basically requiring everything they need to open a shop.
IMHO, ultimately dragging wages down...like we see with today's economy and the flurry of gibberish at CL.

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Lucky

If you go on a job with 424, you carry ONLY, ONLY, ONLY, what is on the tool list or you take the excess tools home or back to camp. A good steward will tell you ONCE!!! Most fellow workers I know carry a small toolbox, usually plastered with union stickers.
Lucky

brian john

In the 70's I rode a bike to work. NO ONE could understand why, I would get offers all the time for a ride home,.

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Bob Badger

I would be ashamed to work like that.

When it gets to the point when the union starts sending guys home for having to many tools it shows how far out of touch the union has become.

Lucky

So Bob, do you really think it is fair to your fellow workers if you have $10,000 worth of tools and they have the tool list? (In 424, the tool list would run about $250 to $300, if you use Klein or equal.) That is what the tool list is all about, fairness. An old hand could bring $10,000 worth, benders all the way from 1/2 emt to Flip top to 4" hydraulic, threading tools, cordless or corded power tools, ramset or Hilti. We generally work for name brand contractors, Fluor, Bechtel, KBR, not for Mom and Pop contractors. I would blush to have your attitude. Not a union attitude at all. You are mout of touch with what the union is. Anyway, the stewards only send the EXCESS TOOLS home, unless the fellow workers bring the stuff back.
Lucky

lectric_hand6855

Also, I don't think it would be a bad idea to at least add a cordless drill to the tool list.

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Hey news flash ....... life ain't fair, deal with it. Life is a competition.


No I will never have 'the union attitude' if that means being less productive just to be fair to other members.