Bob Badger

So even when I slow down as I get older I still have a 'right' to get paid as much as the faster guys doing the same work?

I think not.

The actual grunt work of electrical construction is a young healthy mans game

I need to find other ways to be a an asset to the organization or I should expect to get let go or my pay reduced. The fact I did my job well in the past does not earn me a free ride in perpetuity.

randomkiller

I find it ironic that I am in the good physical shape that I am at my age and at the same time I am the guy that is more often than not sitting down in front of a computer screen troubleshooting or turning something on or off as the so called "young healthy men" stare at the screen with utter bewilderment. What do I know? I'm just a junior dinosaur in training to be put out to pasture.

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Bob Badger

I don't know what you know, as far as the rest I know I work for a living.

brian john

I am a union contractor for three reasons.

1. I was union at the time I went in business.

2. I felt the union was best for the men, as a small company starting out it is hard to impossible to put it all together for to offer the benefits the union offers it men.

3. Many of my customers (at that time) were union and while they did deal with open shops many preferred a union contractor.

I can offer better benefits than the union does and I do.

When I was an apprentice (helper) I worked for several **** heads (and several excellent men) and I said to myself that when I became a JW I would not treat apprentices like they treated me and other apprentices.

When I was a JW I worked for some excellent shops and some lousy shops (union and open shop) I said to myself I would try to treat my men better than the shops I had worked for.

I charge NO MORE than other shops, non-union and/or union. I have stated before that my friends with open shops that are the same basic size as my shop, laugh at me and wonder why I am union. They live a somewhat higher life style than I do. Several of these shops are run by ex-union men.

In our area there are few jobs that require union labor, those days are over. There are some companies (quite a few) that are open shop that only do Davis Bacon work.

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Celtic

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Bob Badger

I have much better hair.




I was thinking of you the other day while doing some electrical work in a bakery I had to stop while a women was moving a whole cart full of freshly baked pies.

Peter D

Actually, your hair looks about the same.

Bob Badger

Don't be a hater, I know your just jealous an old turd like me has more hair then you.

Peter D

Well, let's see...

Go bald...

Or go gray...


Hmmmmmm....those choices aren't very good, are they?

Bob Badger

Gray? .......... your being kind.

Peter D

Good point. Going white....

Celtic

It's a sick world when some internet nonsense makes you chuckle in the real world for no apparent reason [to those nearby]


BTW, I'd a tripped her, grabbed that cart and ran like a madman down the street hooting, howling and hollering the whole way.

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Celtic

If you dose your head with grecian formula, it takes 10 years off.




Bald guys....stock up on GLH-9

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Bob Badger

Yes, exactly like that.

knaack134

I do enjoy this site because the taboo union subject can be discussed. But there is so much uninformed crap dished out.

Where I am their is a "SUGGESTED TOOL LIST" provided in the contract. I wish everyone who states their opinions about these lists would look at the contract language in their local (be you union or not).



As far as I am concerned a smart contractor wants you installing and or maintaining electrical equiptment for as much of your 8 hour shift as possable, not dragging in your own personel gangbox every morning. Thats what foreman (with company vehicles) and truckdirvers are for.

I have been fortunate to have come up with a good company. As a foreman, I would be in so much trouble from my boss if I didn't have adequate (shop supplied) drills, sawzalls or any other power tool on site that would make people work faster.

I guess I am looking at this from the business owners viewpoint. I would rather supply the power and specialty tools to my men and create an enviornment where they could work efficiently, than wait around to hire guys driving around with ten grand in tools.

brian john

But there is so much uninformed crap dished out.


Having worked around open shops and union companies I have not seen employees dragging in gang boxes, unless the company truck stops by to drop one off and never saw or heard of anyone waiting to hire a man with his own tools.

Most shops I know do not want employees to bring their personal power tools to the job, because when it is lost or broken the man whines he wants a new one. SO the EC would end up buying a man a NEW replacement tool for a possible 10 year old POS. ECs buy their own new tools and let employees use them as it should be.

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