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Old 11-07-2009, 04:28 PM   #41
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hmmmm..... i just wonder...
Well stop wondering...

It was purely coincidence.
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Old 11-07-2009, 04:54 PM   #42
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Well stop wondering...

It was purely coincidence.
i'm sure it was.
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Old 11-09-2009, 04:05 PM   #43
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Hey sparks, what shop layed you off and closed?
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Old 11-10-2009, 12:03 PM   #44
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have been working 32 hour weeks all year my boss don"t know if he will make it thru the winter ,hall looks bleak with alltime high of 2200 most its ever been in my 25 years IS 1600. and traviling isn"t an option waste of money and time with no work or for less pay .hang in there it can only get better!
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have been working 32 hour weeks all year my boss don"t know if he will make it thru the winter ,hall looks bleak with alltime high of 2200 most its ever been in my 25 years IS 1600. and traviling isn"t an option waste of money and time with no work or for less pay .hang in there it can only get better!
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Old 11-19-2009, 04:01 PM   #46
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sparks134, are you res. or com. , I been laid off a year and im res. hope something breaks for us soon. longest i ever been sitting on the bench. good luck to you. let me know you were working for, I was with nuline doing the high rises in 08 when thay let me go
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Sorry to hear that. My time is coming soon. I really expect my 2 checks next week. Not much work here in St. Louis. over 700 on the books and NO jobs. Did hear that Collinsville, Il has work in the coming weeks for the Commercial guys. But if I remember correctly you are Resi? We have a new classification her in STL called a CW(commercial worker 70% JW rate). Many of our Resi's have changed classification just to get out and work. Does Chicago have anything like that?
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Old 11-20-2009, 01:39 PM   #48
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sorry to here that, hope you keep working. here in chicago we have an A card for com. and R card for res. If your a R card you have to have 8,000 hrs and take like 10 classes to up grade to an A card. I have the hours but never took the classes because the school like two hours away from me. So for know im stuck with res. We got 2300 on the A card and 530 on the R card. Theres been like one call for one person on res. side in four mouth. I got like 150 guys ahead of me before my number comes up. so if thay don't start moving the books the first if the year(and it doesn't look like it will) It may be other year. if unemployment runs out going to have find someother kind of work for less money. Was hoping it doesn't come down to that. But looks like all i can do is sit and wait till spring good luck to you brother
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Old 11-21-2009, 02:36 PM   #49
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works slow here in New York as well. sure the wages are high but that doesnt do any good if there is no work. these asshole stock market manipulators screwed us real good. its ironic we need them to build for us to work. things are different for everybody even the guys working steady. we are all feeling this.

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Old 11-21-2009, 02:48 PM   #50
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well the one ray of sunshine is after these downturns we usually have several years of growth its just hard to think about draining the swamp when you are up to your but in alligators
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Mogal, I thought Collinsville was done. Im on that book about 500 back. What are you hearin.
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With no incentives for businesses and higher taxes on corporate profits and personal income, the turnaround will most likely be slow in coming.
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Amen

And it's not contractors - we want to hire.

It's the customers who aren't keen on spending at this time.

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And it's not contractors - we want to hire.

It's the customers who aren't keen on spending at this time.
Usually we are slammed from Thanksgivings through New Year's as customers spend their last budget dollars before losing them at year’s end.

This year they are all holding onto the dollars for fear there will be no new cash come 2010.
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the media needs to stop scarying eveyone, there selling the drama to get better rattings, Its not as bad as it seems, if we could just get people away from the drama and just get on with our lifes things would get back to normal or at least growing again
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the media needs to stop scarying eveyone, there selling the drama to get better rattings, Its not as bad as it seems, if we could just get people away from the drama and just get on with our lifes things would get back to normal or at least growing again

What is normal? Since NAFTA we've been treading water. Free trade and exporting all our manufacturing along with reducing natural resource harvesting has destroyed our economy. Letting all the Mexicans cross the border hasn't helped either. There is no getting back to normal without some huge political changes.
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Change is comming!!! Just wait till that Health Care bill passes with all that other stuff that we have to pay for. Everyone has some extra money lately that you have been wondering what you were going to do with right? Well let me tell you Mr. Change has that covered for you.
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Change is comming!!! Just wait till that Health Care bill passes with all that other stuff that we have to pay for. Everyone has some extra money lately that you have been wondering what you were going to do with right? Well let me tell you Mr. Change has that covered for you.
Tell us how you really feel.
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about the same as me...

for the 1st time since i've been involved in this industry, i hesitate to grow...until all these plans and bills get put in place, who knows what is going to happen...without a clear picture of where this country is going, things are very uncertain...
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You probably remember our state representative Joe "You Lie" Wilson calling out Mr. Change on this, but to my knowledge not one person has presented any evidence that would prove that Mr. Change wasn't lying. There is a hell of a lot more in this bill that they don't want us to know about. Be afraid, be very afraid. Its time for America to wake up and realize that there really is no free lunch.
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