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Old 02-15-2010, 04:38 PM   #61
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I was informed by my "hook" after he spoke with mr. Shultz that I made the list. But I was told im not towards the top of the list. That maybe I would get called sometime in 2010.. But the way things are looking now Im not going to get my hopes up. By the time I get called Im going to have Journeymen skills.

Takes along time to get journeyman skills. You would have to be working in a commercial/industrial environment bending on table benders and using rigid 300s. If your "hook" comes through in a year or two it will take longer than that to aquire the neccessary skills. your best bet when you get in is to keep your mouth shut and do what you are asked to without complaints. First year apps aren't supposed to know much anyway!

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Old 02-15-2010, 04:55 PM   #62
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At the December 2009 meeting of the Joint Apprentice Training Committee it was agreed that due to the present employment level within the electrical industry no new apprentices would be absorbed into the industry in February 2010. Prior to the decision it was undecided if a new apprentice training class would be started for the February semester.
Business Manager Christopher Erikson informed the trustees that in accordance with the collective bargaining agreement that the union would agree to accept new apprentices if they could be absorbed into the workforce but due to the high level of unemployment being experienced by journeypersons that Local 3 would not agree to begin a class in February.
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Old 02-15-2010, 07:26 PM   #63
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Takes along time to get journeyman skills. You would have to be working in a commercial/industrial environment bending on table benders and using rigid 300s. If your "hook" comes through in a year or two it will take longer than that to aquire the neccessary skills. your best bet when you get in is to keep your mouth shut and do what you are asked to without complaints. First year apps aren't supposed to know much anyway!
If it comes in 2 years I would have 4 years Electrician experience along with 2 schools.. not all the work is commerical though but i would be ahead of the game as opposed to guys that havent done any electric work ..

If i came across bragging that was not my intention. I was just explaining my situation and what was explained to me. Im surprised by the negative feedback. Didnt mean to offend anybody
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"If i came across bragging that was not my intention. I was just explaining my situation and what was explained to me. Im surprised by the negative feedback. Didnt mean to offend anybody"


Dont be surprised. many people including your "hook" wouldn't appreciate that being put out there especially other guys on the job. Im just saying the less you say the better off you are. you are going to hear that alot when you get in. I totally support any promising electrician to join the union and become an asset but many guys will tear apart any one that comes across as a know it all. A good basic understanding of the trade will be recognized for what it is and will take you far. no need to show your hand.

LGLS is right though...........
the list can take a long time to go through and there might not be any new classes this year. The JIB specifically said not until at least September..........
however they might bring in a few at a time to fill spots if there is a demand.

As they go through the list and hire they usually say that they aren't accepting anybody else from the current list and then start a completely new application process. This can take 3-5 years like he said.
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"If i came across bragging that was not my intention. I was just explaining my situation and what was explained to me. Im surprised by the negative feedback. Didnt mean to offend anybody"


Dont be surprised. many people including your "hook" wouldn't appreciate that being put out there especially other guys on the job. Im just saying the less you say the better off you are. you are going to hear that alot when you get in. I totally support any promising electrician to join the union and become an asset but many guys will tear apart any one that comes across as a know it all. A good basic understanding of the trade will be recognized for what it is and will take you far. no need to show your hand.

LGLS is right though...........
the list can take a long time to go through and there might not be any new classes this year. The JIB specifically said not until at least September..........
however they might bring in a few at a time to fill spots if there is a demand.

As they go through the list and hire they usually say that they aren't accepting anybody else from the current list and then start a completely new application process. This can take 3-5 years like he said.
Exactly - if you have an edge, fine, use it. But don't brag about it. Nothing good comes to others when you stroke your own ego.
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I am a first year apprentice in Local 3...I just started work and school in september. Prior to being accepted into the program i worked for a licensed electrician for more than 8 years..learned a lot and did a lot....but i dont go around boasting about all the experience i have. if one of the guys asks me straight out what i did before getting into the union i dont lie...i tell them "i used to work for a licensed guy" and then if they ask me anything else ..ill tell em..but i dont go bragging about what i know already.
ive already come across a couple of journeymen that i "technically" have more experience than...but in this program..that doesnt matter...they're still the journeyman and im still the apprentice. i still have to get coffee ...haha
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I am a first year apprentice in Local 3...I just started work and school in september. Prior to being accepted into the program i worked for a licensed electrician for more than 8 years..learned a lot and did a lot....but i dont go around boasting about all the experience i have. if one of the guys asks me straight out what i did before getting into the union i dont lie...i tell them "i used to work for a licensed guy" and then if they ask me anything else ..ill tell em..but i dont go bragging about what i know already.
ive already come across a couple of journeymen that i "technically" have more experience than...but in this program..that doesnt matter...they're still the journeyman and im still the apprentice. i still have to get coffee ...haha

What kind of work have you been doing since you've been there
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Its taken a few years but I got a letter on Nov 13th that basically asks if I'm still interested in the program and to send a letter back within 10days(sent it the same day via certified mail with return receipt) After talking to a few people from the union it basically puts me on the list. Now just waiting for my official acceptance letter. Since I took the test in 09 I have gone back to school and have 72 credits(12 from empire from 1st time I was in program) and I will be graduating with my liberal arts associates in may 13, When I'm accepted into the local 3ibew nyc program I will go straight into the bachelors program since I have more than 64 credits. I'm really excited and grateful to get a 2nd chance and have learned from my ways in the past and I plan on doing it right this time around! no more of the foolishness that I did before.
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Got my Letter....wooo whooo and I think I'm in

it states.

"TY for applying etc.. Your application is on file should apprentice positions open in the Electrical Industry. It then asks me to send the return letter saying If I'm still interested and to reply within 10 days. on the bottom in bold letters it states.

"DO NOT LEAVE YOUR PRESENT JOB UNTIL YOU ARE NOTIFIED"
It finishes by saying " you will be contacted in the future should positions become open. If Accepted we hope you will consider this opportunity as a career of commitment and loyalty in one of the best unions in the country.

While its not an out and out acceptance this has to mean I'm on the list and they want to know if I'm still interested and when classes(apprentices usually 500 each Jan/june/sept to start school and or work) open and I'm interested that I will be contacted further etc...I think this is great news. very happy now the real waiting starts!

Also, the application number has two numbers- then 4 numbers between 1050-1120 does that mean anything as far as rank
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i dunno if this is a old post but my shop is switching unions to local3 does my mechanic status switch over or how does it work ?
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i dunno if this is a old post but my shop is switching unions to local3 does my mechanic status switch over or how does it work ?

It depends on how you did on the test. Your employer tells us where all the employees stand. Journeyman, Helper, etc...

Then you are given tests to see what your skill level is...these tests are created with the knowledge that there is a possibility of the testee not having any formal electrical theory classes. The tests represent Hands On Experience.

Then you are placed at what level you grade at. Remember this...many employers TELL the union that Person X is only a 4th Year Helper...even though you were getting Mechanic Rate with him...They do this to save them money.

Once you get in...you will be in the M Division. You will not be required to go to school other than rudimentary classes...Basic Wiring, Basic Code, etc...after that, you get your raises and over time.

BTW...for the M Division we have TWO LEVELS of Journeyman...MJ1 and MJ2...both are two year slots. You're an MJ1 for two years, then you become an MJ2 for two years.

If you have any other questions, I'll be glad to help you.
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Saw this the other day, thought you guys might want to see it.

http://local3.com/?q=node/5627

HA! I never saw that picture. I remember the guy taking the pictures of us interviewing!

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