dukester

whats the 50/50

westernexplorer

The 50/50 call back, use to be for every man taken off the books by the number, the contractors had the right to call someone out of order by name to work a job. It is wormy as hell, but the whole country has become pretty wormy in my view......

miller_elex

Here's what I don't get, if someone is worth calling by name, indeed, they should be worth the extra 10% in pay it costs to call them out by name.

Do you think the guy getting called by name at no extra cost, may be the same guy running jobs and taking the prints home at no extra cost to the contractor?

Its times like these, when a man feels his junk in the vise, mortgaged to the hilt, that same man gives more than 50hours (consistently) for 40hours pay. And you don't think this is wrong?

What's wrong is a man can't control his appetite for debt and gets himself into this situation in the first place.

westernexplorer

Miller,

You will get no arguement from me on this issue. I agree 1000 percent. I don't like 50/50. I think the members should live within there means, not doing that, has made the IBEW weak.
Contractors always love talking about partnership in good times, so we go easy on them. In bad times they love telling us how disposable we are........I have a memory like an elephant....LOL.

brian john

Yeah So I can get two slackers (bench warmers) or a guy that I know is good and a bench warmer. Promoting a better work force. NOT.

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westernexplorer

All you have to do is put a call in for a foreman and you can have any man you want...... Also, just because someone is laid-off doesn't mean they are not a good worker. I know many wireman who CHOOSE to keep there bills low, so they don't have to work on there knees and laugh at every joke the boss tells.....or get laid-off and replaced by some guy who is afraid to speak his mind.

dukester

even in a open shop who can speak there mind. in any business the only one who can truely speak there mind is the owner.. Everyone else just along for the ride

westernexplorer

Dukester,
My point exactly......you can only speak your mind if you can AFFORD too.....

Like my good friend Greg always says, "There is no free speech in America, you pay for every word, so choose them wisely"........

I have a friend who is the best electrician I have ever met. He knows PLC's, Industrial Controls and has run several electrical projects in the 10's of million's of dollars. He could be a contractor if he chose to be. He lives in a little trailer, hangs out by the ocean and works when he wants too....He takes absolutly NO trash talk from contractor's. Good contractors love him, bad contractors hate him. He once got into it with a contractor about building a job to the spec's and the contractor order all sub-standard equipment. He informed the owner, who was paying the bill and the contractor had to buy the right equipment. The contractor fire my friend, who was right....? How many of you will tell your boss he is wrong and tell his customer's he is wrong......?