Ongoing union discussion - Was "What's you local" - Electrician Talk - Professional Electrical Contractors Forum

RUSSIAN · 06-23-2008, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by BP_redbear

IBEW L.U. 106 (western NY state), First year apprentice, Inside Wireman.

(Apparently I don't get inducted into the union until the end of my first 12 months).

What? that's kinda weird

norcalbay · 06-23-2008, 01:57 AM

Local 595 Dublin,CA. I didn't get sworn in until the 3rd bracket (beginning of second year)

bulldog1770 · 06-23-2008, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Thomp

He could have taken a maintenance electrician job. Either way welcome to the forum!

I took a Electrical Estimator Position.. We can take a maintenance job for a UNION shop only...

brian john · 06-23-2008, 08:37 AM

You can take a job for anybody you want, but there are penalties.

I have worked with several DIE HARD union members, FIGHT FOR THE BROTHERHOOD, these guys moved into management at a large contractors and what a bunch of hard asses they became. Treating the men poorly. I never understand how seemingly good people can flip so drastically.

bulldog1770 · 06-23-2008, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by brian john

You can take a job for anybody you want, but there are penalties.

I have worked with several DIE HARD union members, FIGHT FOR THE BROTHERHOOD, these guys moved into management at a large contractors and what a bunch of hard asses the became. Treating the men poorly. I never understand how seemingly good people can flip so drastically.

Well long story short----I got F&*Ked by the BA and the foreman running the last job I was on---My wife was severely injured, having to take her to specialists during the week, meant taken days off---going from running jobs, to showing up and never missing anytime, I sat the Foreman down and told him my situation---He told me, to bring him a doctors note everytime, I go to Doc--I said sure, no problem, after a couple days--BA, came on job and said I am costing the hall, H&W Money, and I should take a lay-off, and here is the kicker---He stated he did not want to hear my "Sad Story" about my wife..... So, funny how after I told him to go F&^K himself, I was "laid-off"..... So, being the man that I am--I took a job at a NON UNION shop, as a Estimator... Currently, I am taken a $8 Million school project from local 743....

Wonder why people get pissed? So, now I am taken 18,000 man hours from the H&W fund!!!!

bulldog1770 · 06-23-2008, 09:07 AM

no penalties here...

bulldog1770 · 06-23-2008, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by brian john

You can take a job for anybody you want, but there are penalties.

I have worked with several DIE HARD union members, FIGHT FOR THE BROTHERHOOD, these guys moved into management at a large contractors and what a bunch of hard asses the became. Treating the men poorly. I never understand how seemingly good people can flip so drastically.

They were probably no good to begin with....

brian john · 06-23-2008, 10:41 AM

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They were probably no good to begin with....

I know. but I just can not understand how any body F's with another man. I mean there are times when I like to kick the crap out of a guy. But to mess with guys on regular basis just because you a small minded D-head. I do not get it.

bulldog1770 · 06-23-2008, 10:46 AM

Its the same everywhere--- in construction and in a office

Engineers and architects are as small minded as any BA, I've known...

Instead of people getting better as they grow, most forget what is RIGHT in this world....

brian john · 06-23-2008, 01:25 PM

I have worked for some excellent people and some S-bags, I always try to treat people like I always wanted to be treated.

Treat them fairly.
Give them a fair chance.
Pay them well with decent bennies.
Never yell at them.
Never give them something to do I would not do myself.
Safe vehicles and working conditions.
Good tools, what ever they feel they need.

BUT I WANT good quality work, 8-4-8, no lying, no bull ****. If you are late TELL ME, not Oh I am just around the corner when in actuality you are 40 minutes away.

Nodoggie · 10-23-2008, 03:30 PM

L.U. 11--lotsa guys traveling to 440 these days to stay employed.

L.U. 474--you guys still finished those power plants? any work left?

L.U. 3--what's up with the new "memorial" towers? you guys ever gonna man up?

MechanicalDVR · 10-24-2008, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Nodoggie

L.U. 11--lotsa guys traveling to 440 these days to stay employed.

L.U. 474--you guys still finished those power plants? any work left?

L.U. 3--what's up with the new "memorial" towers? you guys ever gonna man up?

California, worrying about local 3 manning up......you from San Franfairy area?

Zenerohmma · 10-24-2008, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Nodoggie

L.U. 11--lotsa guys traveling to 440 these days to stay employed.

I heard that 440 was hurting and many apprentices from that local were going to Vegas....

Nodoggie · 10-25-2008, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MechanicalDVR

California, worrying about local 3 manning up......you from San Franfairy area?

lol. nah, semi. just curious about jobs manning up in other parts of the country.

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Originally Posted by Zenerohmma

I heard that 440 was hurting and many apprentices from that local were going to Vegas....

True. That can be said about all parts of cali...the country, in fact. I was in Vegas not too long ago. The license plates at the hall in the morning were from Delaware, Iowa, Michigan, you name it. But the recession-proof bubble has already popped in Vegas, too. A $4 billion project just got put on hold, and Center City isn't seeing much O.T. The downtrend really started around last Christmas in Vegas.

Zenerohmma · 10-25-2008, 07:27 PM

I have a friend who works in Local 11 as an apprentice and he says that they are not taking many apprentices right now but many aprprentices in the local are working.

I know there is alot of construction going on in LA right now. So it could be a decent local to be a member of right now.

From what I heard it is not easy to get into.

Nodoggie · 10-25-2008, 07:29 PM

it's huge. they have something like 7 halls because it's so spread out.

Panic661 · 10-25-2008, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Zenerohmma

I heard that 440 was hurting and many apprentices from that local were going to Vegas....

Beleive thats San Bernadino? Yea, 38 apprentices out of work, they are sending apprenti to Vegas.

Bakersfield is doing well but starting to slow up, my girlfriends dad (my instructor) is saying in January we'll be pretty slow..

Oh ya, I'm a 428 apprentice.. lol..

We were hiring quite a bit and just stopped due to things slowing up..

unionwirewoman · 10-28-2008, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by brian john

You complained about out of towners in your jurisdiction, yet you say the best was when your local traveled??????

and you are a 3rd year apprentice yet you complain about new comers????

Is it just me or do people form a habit of only reading HALF of a post ?
To answer your question , I do believe you're talking about the thread of me saying NON-LICENSED out of state workers coming in and trying to work....am I correct ? I DO NOT complain about travelers coming into our state as long as they are MONTANA STATE LICENSED . Which is a requirement to do electrical work in the STATE OF MONTANA . If you would have read the post I did on this thread...you would have also read that I stated that's what I was told by most of the good journeymen who have been in my local for 15+ years . Please read before you try to bash my integrity . I don't type just to see myself type..... I say things that are true to the best of my knowledge . As far as being a 3rd year...... do you think I just spout things off ? I listen , observe , and get pis#ed when I have to teach a so called (organized) JW how to wire up a switch or bend conduit . I'm all for helping out....but it only goes so far .

ibewwolf · 12-13-2008, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bulldog1770

Well long story short----I got F&*Ked by the BA and the foreman running the last job I was on---My wife was severely injured, having to take her to specialists during the week, meant taken days off---going from running jobs, to showing up and never missing anytime, I sat the Foreman down and told him my situation---He told me, to bring him a doctors note everytime, I go to Doc--I said sure, no problem, after a couple days--BA, came on job and said I am costing the hall, H&W Money, and I should take a lay-off, and here is the kicker---He stated he did not want to hear my "Sad Story" about my wife..... So, funny how after I told him to go F&^K himself, I was "laid-off"..... So, being the man that I am--I took a job at a NON UNION shop, as a Estimator... Currently, I am taken a $8 Million school project from local 743....

Wonder why people get pissed? So, now I am taken 18,000 man hours from the H&W fund!!!!

Bulldog, I'm new to this site and I don't quite understand something. Your "location" says you are in New York. So how would you be taking H&W hours from local 743? Thanks for a reply.

oldman · 12-13-2008, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MichiganElectrician

IBEW Local 58 Detroit, MI

We are all electricians trying to make a living.

Maybe we should try to stick together instead of fighting each other.

Just a thought.

well said...remember, labor and contractors both need eachother and should be on the same team...the common goal is to get the customer to open their pocketbooks...