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05-23-2009, 07:21 PM
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Wire Ninja
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Originally Posted by drsparky
I saw a tool list that had a 5/8 star bit on it.
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I Googled for required tool lists earlier and found a Rawl drill and a drilling hammer on several lists. I guess it's been a while since those lists were updated.
My wife's grandfather, who is retired in the mid 70's from the IBEW, still has his "required tools" in a little sheet metal tote tray in his garage, as if he's going to use them one day. He's told several stories of guys catching hell for having even the simplest thing that wasn't on the tool list. Two pencils instead of one comes to mind as one for instance.
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05-23-2009, 08:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MDShunk
I Googled for required tool lists earlier and found a Rawl drill and a drilling hammer on several lists. I guess it's been a while since those lists were updated.
My wife's grandfather, who is retired in the mid 70's from the IBEW, still has his "required tools" in a little sheet metal tote tray in his garage, as if he's going to use them one day. He's told several stories of guys catching hell for having even the simplest thing that wasn't on the tool list. Two pencils instead of one comes to mind as one for instance.
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i wish companies gave tool lists. i see a lot of new helpers that dont have any idea on what to buy. a klein tool set is a good start anyway
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05-23-2009, 08:16 PM
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Wire Ninja
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Quote:
Originally Posted by electricalperson
i wish companies gave tool lists.
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Some companies are resistant to that idea because some guys will get the idea that they need not (or may not) buy and use things that are not on the list. That may be true in some instances, but not in most instances. I do agree, however, that for a green apprentice or a helper, a tool list would be most helpful. Theyv'e never done this sort of work before, so naturally they'd have no idea what to have in their bag.
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05-24-2009, 12:28 AM
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i just got 2-200ft fish tapes for 50$, a greenlee and an ideal, about two hours ago.
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05-25-2009, 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by sparkyboys
some are but, i have been getting some really good deals off this web site in utah called ksl.com, which is where i am living currently before going back to georgia in october. december is when my wife finishes her masters degree in psychology.
most of the tools have been selling for a 1/3 of what they are worth, some at 1/2. georgia has no kind of web site like this, so, i have been collecting. and preparing for when i pass this masters test in georgia.
i buy nothing off ebay, this site is as good, if not better than ebay. great deals. some i think are stolen but oh well.
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Ksl.com is an awesome site. Kind of like craigslist 2.0 IMO. I live in Utah as well and bought my last car off the site.
I have heard our tool list is one of the longer ones. I kinda always felt like the list was more of a guide to be honest. If I can find a copy I will post it up.
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05-25-2009, 08:16 AM
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[quote=sparkyboys;83179]just desired. i buy these things now so that when i start up in two-three years, i will not have to take out a loan to get them. my father also has invested in the trade as well. he gets things that are way out of my league.
like :
ridgid 700 power pony
all the dies
cords
ladders
job box
three sala 400$ harnesses
he owns his own cpa firm. he wants to see me succeed in this. i will also be making him my president and cfo of the company. i want to start off doing commercial and industrial, not residential.[/quote
Sparky, Hello
I worked as an electrician for 33 years. I have never wired a house and have no idea about the codes. lol- sorta glad I did not have that experience.
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05-25-2009, 08:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MDShunk
I Googled for required tool lists earlier and found a Rawl drill and a drilling hammer on several lists. I guess it's been a while since those lists were updated.
My wife's grandfather, who is retired in the mid 70's from the IBEW, still has his "required tools" in a little sheet metal tote tray in his garage, as if he's going to use them one day. He's told several stories of guys catching hell for having even the simplest thing that wasn't on the tool list. Two pencils instead of one comes to mind as one for instance.
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Md -sadlly it is still like that on alot of jobs
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05-25-2009, 10:29 AM
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A Yankee Screw Driver.
A quick spin screw driver.
Are 2 others that come to mind.
Someone posted that wire strippers in New York City were verboten. But I am sure that was a mistake.
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05-25-2009, 11:08 AM
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MD-
I would have really enjoyed talking to your wife's grandfather. Many people dont know or care how the real oldtimers had to do their work without power tools and other modern day tools.
I once worked for a contractor in St Louis and the GF brought in a chain ratchet bender that was the prelude to a chicago bender. It was so amazing to use it and lt also made me thankful for the modern tools.
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05-25-2009, 01:03 PM
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milk
bread
Capt’ Crunch
toilet paper
eggs
green beans
beer
frozen pizza
hamburger
beer
mac-n-cheese
pickles
edit oops wrong list
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05-25-2009, 06:11 PM
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Tool List
480sparky
Tool 5150
Anyone else?
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05-25-2009, 06:26 PM
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I learned what I needed in my bag based on how frequently I had to borrow a tool from somebody else.
But expecting a helper/apprentice to show up with all the right tools on the first day without giving him a list beforehand would be just a little bit idiotic.
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05-25-2009, 06:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Frasbee
I learned what I needed in my bag based on how frequently I had to borrow a tool from somebody else.
But expecting a helper/apprentice to show up with all the right tools on the first day without giving him a list beforehand would be just a little bit idiotic.
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Not at all we give them a tool bag filled with what I feel is needed in their first year. I expect them to replace lost or stolen tools and return them if they quit or are let go in the first 12 months.
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05-25-2009, 07:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brian john
Not at all we give them a tool bag filled with what I feel is needed in their first year. I expect them to replace lost or stolen tools and return them if they quit or are let go in the first 12 months.
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Your boys got it better than any of us did.
Then again, only one electrician got on my ass on having a belt/pouch and specific tools while I assisted him on a job, since the company didn't mandate anything.
Ever since last May I've been well equipped for most any situation.
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05-25-2009, 09:55 PM
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Master Plumber
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jbfan
Tool List
480sparky
Tool 5150
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its TOOL_5150 no spaces.
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05-25-2009, 11:33 PM
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Mad Skills
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MDShunk
I Googled for required tool lists earlier and found a Rawl drill and a drilling hammer on several lists. I guess it's been a while since those lists were updated.
My wife's grandfather, who is retired in the mid 70's from the IBEW, still has his "required tools" in a little sheet metal tote tray in his garage, as if he's going to use them one day. He's told several stories of guys catching hell for having even the simplest thing that wasn't on the tool list. Two pencils instead of one comes to mind as one for instance.
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I find the OPPOSITE TO BE TRUE ~ guys with tools not even on the list...#1 example is a personal ratchet set.
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05-26-2009, 03:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Celtic
I find the OPPOSITE TO BE TRUE ~ guys with tools not even on the list...#1 example is a personal ratchet set.
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We are required to have a ratchet set. Like I said ours is pretty big though from what I have heard.
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05-26-2009, 09:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brian john
Not at all we give them a tool bag filled with what I feel is needed in their first year. I expect them to replace lost or stolen tools and return them if they quit or are let go in the first 12 months.
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That's really cool of you to do for the newbs. If you don't mind, what do you put in the toolbag?
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05-26-2009, 05:32 PM
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Wire Ninja
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikeomo
That's really cool of you to do for the newbs. If you don't mind, what do you put in the toolbag?
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Juice box, gummy snacks, peanut butter and jelly sandwich and an apple
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05-26-2009, 05:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MDShunk
Juice box, gummy snacks, peanut butter and jelly sandwich and an apple
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No wonder why you're such a lightweight. You eat too healthy.
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