chicken steve

Don,

I've been on a PW job now for almost a year

they ship in Mexicans, pay the 'lead man' PW, and the rest min wage

so i just don't see that playing field working very well here

~CS~

360max

than call the dept of labor dept, must be non union

SHOPROCKET1

Nah he's doing fine and wouldn't want to raise any flags! Just wordsmith the dept of labor!:lau ghing:

don_resqcapt19

I am aware of some very large fines against the contractor and large amounts of back pay to workers on PW jobs when the workers were not paid what the law required.
There are also kick back schemes where the contractor pays the guys the correct wage, but the workers give part of it back. There are lots of ways to get around rules.

airfieldsparky

I got a buddy in the jersey city union says he wired an apartment building just him and a foreman were union, the rest were sub contracted illegals that actually did the wiring...

brian john

I worked at a firm that did what Don said, I had quit right before all this went down. The owner was caught and fined, he had to give back pay to the workers.
He brought them in and asked them to sign a paper saying he had paid them, and he would give them a $1,000.00, if they did not sign they would receive back pay and be fired. Every employee signed and took the $1,000.00 cash. At least one guy I knew was owed more than he earned in a year for non scale jobs.

I was flabbergasted that they men did not ask for the money they were owed.

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19kilosparky984

So why didn't he just call the hall. Yet another bs story.

dronai

Ship them in ? You don't have any resident Mexicans ?

360max

your buddy is non union

360max

...are they normally at the corner of any orange or blue store in any city or poverty stricken area?

airfieldsparky

Nope he was def. Union he left last year when he passed the fdny exam. I don't believe he would have a reason to lie to me. When we were talking about it I was doing residential at the time and I mentioned it must be nice to work with all american guys and he told me that is not always the case.

qckrun

You are so far off base with your understanding of PW work in California.

Prevailing wage is NOT just cash in hand instead of a benefit package.

The contractor has the option, at least they did have the option, to pay you full scale (SF is $75.99) or pay your benefits and retirement and base pay. Most do not give you full package, because of legal issues.

If your getting $53.xx in SF county, your not getting a correct wage. SF is the highest paid county in California followed by San Mateo, and Alameda. Alameda county is $52.65 + Benefits, and Retirement (total package is like 69$/hr).

IF your getting $53.xx I'd talk to your boss, because it should be a couple dollars more, more in the neighborhood of $55-57/hr, depending on year of bid.

cowboyznindianz

so, do they have the option or not...sounds like your unsure of your understanding also....guess we could both just google it and find out exactly....

chicken steve

very few, it would be unusual to see a 1/2 dz in any one place here

so they pack them all into an suv, more than it would have seatbelts for, and they drive 11-14 hrs straight up to a hotel here

my point being,i'm dubious that they are paid PW, their travel gas , and hotel rooms vs. local help off the street

~CS~

chicken steve

i think that's what must be going on here, but i've no way to prove it, nor will calling in the state be any good....

~CS~

jrannis

I don't imagine that the next highest bidder would be happy to hear about how he lost the job.

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Dnkldorf

Please acuurately define what a "decent liveable wage" is.

Please name the source also, if it's not too much trouble.

One more please. Please tell us where the line is, between "decent liveable wage" and "greed".

Thanks for your time.

don_resqcapt19

Often that next bidder is the one who triggers the enforcement

bubb_tubbs

So three of the mere handful of things that are actually worth discussing or debating?

What's left? The weather? Distant relatives you don't give a damn about? Boring sporting events?

SHOPROCKET1

Abortion rights...being very sarcastic............................in MN fireworks, and stadiums.