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10-28-2009, 08:59 PM
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Union vote
Does anyone out there have an opinion on the current vote regarding changes to the current contract? I would hope that only union people respond ...but an opinion is an opinion.
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10-28-2009, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by RIVETER
Does anyone out there have an opinion on the current vote regarding changes to the current contract? I would hope that only union people respond ...but an opinion is an opinion.
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Each local has their own contact and decisions.
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10-28-2009, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by drsparky
Each local has their own contact and decisions.
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What is currently on the table will affect all locals.
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10-28-2009, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by RIVETER
What is currently on the table will affect all locals.
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Well what is on the table?
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10-28-2009, 09:05 PM
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What is currently on the table will affect all locals.
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And the rest of the world is expected to know what is on your table? 
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10-28-2009, 09:07 PM
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And the rest of the world is expected to know what is on your table? |
Yea, that is what I'm thinking. 
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10-28-2009, 09:19 PM
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Okay, my bad. The current vote I am speaking of is the FORD vote, and there is a lot on the table. It has been and will be on the news with current information.
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10-28-2009, 09:29 PM
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I was to young to vote for Ford in 1976, Jimmy Cater won, votes over. 
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10-28-2009, 09:31 PM
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I was to young to vote for Ford in 1976, Jimmy Cater won, votes over. |
That is why most people don't remember who Jimmy CATER is.
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10-28-2009, 09:33 PM
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I still don't know what you are getting at.
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10-28-2009, 09:33 PM
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That is why most people don't remember who Jimmy CATER is.
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Sorry, typing to fast,  Jimmy Carter.
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10-28-2009, 09:35 PM
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Sorry, typing to fast, Jimmy Carter. |
I knew what you meant.
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10-28-2009, 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by william1978
I still don't know what you are getting at.
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With GM and Chrysler kind of out of the picture Ford Motor company is wanting to re- re-open talks about changes to our current contract set to expire in 2011. They want to take away the cap of 20% LOWER TIER WAGE EARNERS as compared to the employees who have been there a while. They want to freeze wages and benefits for current employees and retirees for 6 years. They want us to give up the right to strike for increased benefits and wages when they are KING ON THE HILL again. There is a lot to it and I will say that I am very sorry for the union brothers and sisters at GM AND Chrysler for their troubles that they are having because their respective companies did not plan well enough for today's economy, but in my sorrow for them I do not want to give up ANY MORE.
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10-29-2009, 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by RIVETER
With GM and Chrysler kind of out of the picture Ford Motor company is wanting to re- re-open talks about changes to our current contract set to expire in 2011. They want to take away the cap of 20% LOWER TIER WAGE EARNERS as compared to the employees who have been there a while. They want to freeze wages and benefits for current employees and retirees for 6 years. They want us to give up the right to strike for increased benefits and wages when they are KING ON THE HILL again. There is a lot to it and I will say that I am very sorry for the union brothers and sisters at GM AND Chrysler for their troubles that they are having because their respective companies did not plan well enough for today's economy, but in my sorrow for them I do not want to give up ANY MORE.
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What is a real issue that all the manufactures the union and the feds allowed was unfunded retirements.
I have no problem with Ford doing what they are, it is called business.
Our contract went into effect in June, Nov. 1 the men get a $1.00 and a $1.00 a year for the next 3 years. In a bad economy not bad.
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10-29-2009, 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by brian john
What is a real issue that all the manufactures the union and the feds allowed was unfunded retirements.
I have no problem with Ford doing hat they are it is called business.
Our contract went into effect in June, Nov. 1 the men get a $1.00 and a $1.00 a year for the next 3 years. In a bad economy not bad.
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I agree...Good for you guys. Without YOU and US they could not build ANYTHING.
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10-29-2009, 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by RIVETER
The current vote I am speaking of is the FORD vote, and there is a lot on the table.
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Throw away seniority. It ruins everything. We don't have such a thing.
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10-29-2009, 11:43 AM
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quote=miller_elex;136091]Throw away seniority. It ruins everything. We don't have such a thing.[/quote]
I don't quite see it that way, but thanks for your response.
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10-29-2009, 06:40 PM
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I am a union member and I do not believe in senority should not be the sole deciding factor in who goes and who stays. The senority systems works only when you have a employer that HAS the BALLS to fire someone is not worth a dam.
For minor issues it works well but the ultimate decision NO WAY NO HOW.
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10-29-2009, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Lone Crapshooter
I am a union member and I do not believe in senority should not be the sole deciding factor in who goes and who stays. The senority systems works only when you have a employer that HAS the BALLS to fire someone is not worth a dam.
For minor issues it works well but the ultimate decision NO WAY NO HOW.
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Seniority works just fine for us...to each his own.
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10-29-2009, 11:09 PM
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Seniority works just fine for us...to each his own.
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Okay Captain Obvious, seniority must be working, because it is one thing about unions that hardworking people in this country find distasteful.
Tell me how great seniority is working for the Autoworkers again, I need it explained to me in plain english.
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