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Old 03-19-2017, 02:01 PM   #101
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This is just a total bull**** post. Total outright lies in just about every paragraph.

That being said I would tell the snowflake to at least tough it out for a year with the union gig.
Maybe where you live there is BS in his paragraphs but it is closer to my experience than not.

As for the snowflake, you can't tell in two days if a new GF is worth the time investment let alone a Union job.
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Old 03-19-2017, 07:01 PM   #102
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Maybe where you live there is BS in his paragraphs but it is closer to my experience than not.

As for the snowflake, you can't tell in two days if a new GF is worth the time investment let alone a Union job.
This is what cracks me up. You guys honestly think a union job is more rewarding than a job where the contractor actually cares about you and your family.
This is how brainwashed you guys are. You talk all proud and then go collect unemployment for as long as you can.
Hey look at me I am the best electrician ever. I have training and experience.
I am feeding my family on unemployment.
If your employers cared you would be working.
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Old 03-19-2017, 07:03 PM   #103
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Old 03-19-2017, 07:17 PM   #104
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I've never been in or near a union, but,(as I understand it) if you're a poor or lazy etc. electrician you sit at the hall with no job b/c no one wants you.
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All I know is I am happy and proud as a clam that my son is in and meshing quite well with the crew at the union. And thanks to his eyes and suntan, they don't even realize he is half F'n haole..........
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Old 03-19-2017, 08:58 PM   #106
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This is what cracks me up. You guys honestly think a union job is more rewarding than a job where the contractor actually cares about you and your family.
I've been in two non Union shops as a salt and neither one treated their guys better than dirt.

One of my Uncle's shop was and is non Union and the staff are treated very well but i look at that as an exception, not a rule.

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This is how brainwashed you guys are. You talk all proud and then go collect unemployment for as long as you can.
I was only laid off once and it was while I put a second story on my house.

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Hey look at me I am the best electrician ever. I have training and experience.
What part makes you mad the training or the experience?

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I am feeding my family on unemployment.
Like I said this wasn't true for me or any of my Unionized family members.
This is why I say maybe that is what it's like in your area.

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If your employers cared you would be working.
I was always working, I had a second job so I really didn't want more than 45 hours a week or I could have had OT more often. More often than not i was making over scale and had additional benefits from the companies I worked for. My Union experience was a good one. I was able to retire very early and debt free at that. I've been retired for 8 years now and still haven't started my Union pension, I don't need to.
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This is what cracks me up. You guys honestly think a union job is more rewarding than a job where the contractor actually cares about you and your family.
I've been in two non Union shops as a salt and neither one treated their guys better than dirt.

One of my Uncle's shop was and is non Union and the staff are treated very well but i look at that as an exception, not a rule.

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This is how brainwashed you guys are. You talk all proud and then go collect unemployment for as long as you can.
I was only laid off once and it was while I put a second story on my house.

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Hey look at me I am the best electrician ever. I have training and experience.
What part makes you mad the training or the experience?

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I am feeding my family on unemployment.
Like I said this wasn't true for me or any of my Unionized family members.
This is why I say maybe that is what it's like in your area.

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If your employers cared you would be working.
I was always working, I had a second job so I really didn't want more than 45 hours a week or I could have had OT more often. More often than not i was making over scale and had additional benefits from the companies I worked for. My Union experience was a good one. I was able to retire very early and debt free at that. I've been retired for 8 years now and still haven't started my Union pension, I don't need to.
That's great glad you were able to retire brother .
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That's great glad you were able to retire brother .
Thanks!

The Union has been very good to me and to many members of my family.
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Thanks!

The Union has been very good to me and to many members of my family.
I am glad it has been, and I know many guys that feel the same way, one of my best friends is two years out from full retirement at local 332 in San Jose.

But non-union has been good to me too, better than my days in the union.

Wanting to quit the union after 2 days is kinda dumb, but maybe it isn't. I would advise someone to stick it out for at least a month, because you have a lot of emotions mixed up with the guys you left behind, maybe even a great employer.

I get it that a lot of you had rough outings with open shops, but that doesn't make open shops full of **** ups and run by assholes, in fact from my days in the union I ran into just as much of the same.

One is only better than the other when you believe it is, and that is perfectly okay.

I have always been compensated at or above scale, the only thing I was never quite on par with was the level of benefits, although my $30k after a year of PW work in my IRA was pretty bad ass.... Nothing that the company could take from me if I no longer agreed with their political or idealogical notions.

The two sides won't stop fighting, which may be a good thing, as long as they realize the battle just bolsters the trade in general. But quit thinking I am less than you in any way because I am not a union member, that I treat my employees like ****, that I only look for my own interests.... that is an insult to anyone you have ever worked for, union or not.

Great companies and great employees go hand in hand and exist in a symbiotic relationship, the world is full of both, union and non-union. It is impossible for one to exist without the other for a good period of time.
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Okay so I know many of you will tell me to stick this out. But I made my mind up and wanna go back to my old non Union job, this isn't for me . What's the best possible way to do this
Hey HD5, since your post got bumped to the top after a year, would you care to let us know what happened with your career? I saw you posting about breaking into industrial...?
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