What was the point? - Page 2 - Electrician Talk - Professional Electrical Contractors Forum

oldman · 04-06-2008, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Speedy Petey

I liken it to the Jehova's Witnesses. Every time you see one of them they are trying to convert you. Eventually the politeness wears off and you tell them to getTF out of your face.

Actually Petey, it's like going out of your way to start a conversation with a known Jehovah, then getting pissed that they talk about religion..

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Originally Posted by randomkiller

Well other than one very outspoken Guy, I feel we take more crap and comments than any of us give out. It gets hard to see a brother take so much flak all the time and not get into it. Look back at some of the "heated" posts and see who's throwing more.

Random, don't be a martyr...it's been lots of generalizations tossed from both sides..LOL

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Originally Posted by Speedy Petey

Random, you ask what was the point?
Well, with permission from a member, here is part of one of several PM's I have been getting. This is aside from the publicly posted disdain for these threads.
All I can say is this was NOT the point of this forum:

This is verbatim and not edited other than to remove text before and after the quote to keep the member anonymous

since the Union Topics was started, what other thread has turned down that path? maybe some of the "How much should I get paid" questions...but should that information not be given? the member who sent that PM is FOS...he's the one who is looking in the window, without being asked to, then complains about the color of the couches...

didn't realize there were so many liberals on this site...

Speedy Petey · 04-06-2008, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by oldman

since the Union Topics was started, what other thread has turned down that path? maybe some of the "How much should I get paid" questions...but should that information not be given?

If you got around more and didn't concentrate only on the contentious topics you'd see. Like the safety topics for instance.
Your last 50+ posts have been in the union forum. And that's only as long as this forum has been in place.

Don't get me wrong, I agree with you in theory about the whole union thing, but that is not the point.

If you want every thread you are involved in to be an argument I'm sure that there is a place you can go for that.

If you want to talk about the electrical trade THIS is the place!

oldman · 04-06-2008, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Speedy Petey

If you got around more and didn't concentrate only on the contentious topics you'd see. Like the safety topics for instance.
Your last 50+ posts have been in the union forum. And that's only as long as this forum has been in place.

Don't get me wrong, I agree with you in theory about the whole union thing, but that is not the point.

If you want every thread you are involved in to be an argument I'm sure that there is a place you can go for that.

If you want to talk about the electrical trade THIS is the place!

you might be right...i avoid most other posts because, well...let's just say that they are more useful to others...

unfortunately, i think to not discuss it is wrong...i agree that if threads like that turn into a pissing contest, it get's old...take a thread on safety for example...it's useful to know what the unions provide/require....might help a small open shop learn something new....but it should be in an informative manner, not a derogatory manner...if that's the case, i agree with you...

amptech · 04-06-2008, 06:00 PM

Petey,
Extend my apologies to the site owner for anything I contributed to this mess. I lurked for a long while until some comments got the best of me. That's completely my fault. I tried to be civil and I don't think I resorted to any of the "name calling" you mentioned. But the bottom line is I should have walked away from the subject.

oldman · 04-06-2008, 06:05 PM

don't be sorry amptech...you simply gave your point of view and spoke of your experiences...they just happened to be contrary to someone elses...that's not a bad thing...

Speedy Petey · 04-06-2008, 08:03 PM

What oldman said.

itsunclebill · 04-06-2008, 10:06 PM

I'm up to my eyeballs with this stuff. I'm beginning to come here less on account of it. That members are leaving who provide great information on facets of the trade some folks never see is pretty telling - it's out of hand

I think there's a simple answer. Keep the union vs non union stuff in this forum. Anybody that runs it over (from either side) into the other forums gets banned for a (week-month, whatever) and a second offense get you booted permanently.

If some of you folks gotta behave like kids in how you choose do deal with other folks how about doing it with PMs?

randomkiller · 04-06-2008, 10:13 PM

No one puts a gun to anyone's head and tells them they have to view or read any thread. Coming here and picking what to read is up to the individual. Funny all the most disputed threads gets the most views and I disagree it's like an accident as previously stated.

Speedy Petey · 04-06-2008, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by itsunclebill

I'm up to my eyeballs with this stuff. I'm beginning to come here less on account of it. That members are leaving who provide great information on facets of the trade some folks never see is pretty telling - it's out of hand

Well don't worry Unc. Things are changing.

oldman · 04-07-2008, 07:07 AM

i agree with keeping the knife throwing in the proper section...however, i don't agree with tossing the issue out of all other threads...i think there is valuable information to be gleaned from knowing how all shops do things (open and closed)....but should someone turn it into a pissing match, alert the mod, delete the post and do what you wish with the poster...it's not that difficult.

miller_elex · 04-07-2008, 07:44 PM

You think this forum is bad, check out the forum at line-man.com.

Reading over there, I get the impression they hate each other more than the narrowbacks.

cmec · 04-07-2008, 08:01 PM

IVE made no comments untill now but I (couldnt resist)

What did the narrowback say to the lineman?

YOU know how to tell the differnce between a mule and a lineman
YOU harness the mule up
THE lineman harnesses it selfe up

amptech · 04-07-2008, 08:52 PM

In our county we have 2 PoCos. One is union and the other is a non-union REMC. For years they argued about which was the best line crew. One day the line supers from both utilities had heard enough and set up a contest. Each crew was in the process of setting poles down different stretches of road. They agreed to start the next day at 7:00AM and at 4:00PM they would see which crew had set the most poles. 4:00 rolled around and both crews met at a neutral site to report their progress. The union crew had set 22 poles. The REMC crew had only set 10. But the REMC guys claimed the union crew had cheated. They left 30' of their poles sticking out of the ground.
This is only a joke!!!!!!! Please don't anybody get mad.

cmec · 04-07-2008, 08:57 PM

WAY I heard that joke it was the italian crew and the polish crew

randomkiller · 04-07-2008, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by cmec

WAY I heard that joke it was the italian crew and the polish crew

What are you trying to say, the Italians are more used to burying things?

If some "regular" guys here weren't so sensitive:

What are you trying to say, the Italians are used to burying non-union guys?

amptech · 04-08-2008, 07:10 AM

"What are you trying to say, the Italians are used to burying non-union guys?"

Bkessler · 04-08-2008, 01:39 PM

I too think the content at electrician talk has been going down hill.

frank · 04-08-2008, 02:57 PM

I was away for a month. When I came back it was as though strangers had moved in to my house.

I am sticking around for a while to see if they move on - otherwise I shall be relocating further down the street,

Frank

randomkiller · 04-10-2008, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bkessler

I too think the content at electrician talk has been going down hill.

Being as we are all working men here for the most part and it is our questions and statements being typed out maybe the content is kind of following the US economy.

HighWirey · 04-10-2008, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by miller_elex

You think this forum is bad, check out the forum at line-man.com.

Reading over there, I get the impression they hate each other more than the narrowbacks.

Re: line-man.com
Holy smokes, how do you spell vituperative? Comparatively speaking, we narrowbacks are almost in love!

Frank,
My mother had a saying (most liklely purloined) "I don't know the way to success, but I do know the way to failure: try to please everyone".

I do not like some of what I read here, and some members do not care for my posts. However, I believe that this forum is a great resource.

Please don't give up on us blokes . . .

Best Wishes Everyone