chrisdoan1

just trying to find out

randomkiller

should have posted in the union topics area.

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oldman

better for whom? employee? contractor? union bosses?

randomkiller

The pay and paid benefits are the main reason to go union. Having your interests handled by collective bargining. Better working conditions, safer job sites and proper tools and equipment to do jobs.

From an IBEW site:
The chance to work for all kinds of contractors providing good wages and employer-paid insurance and pension plans. The training is the best around and you don't have to pay for it. On average, U.S. union workers consistently earn more than nonunion workers. One of the many benefits of belonging to a union is financial. In 2002, a union worker brought home $153 more each week than the nonunion worker. For minority workers, the advantages of union representation are even more dramatic. In 2002, for example, African-American union members earned 29 percent or $138 per week more than their nonunion counterparts.

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Speedy Petey

Geeze. Just read the threads in this section to get both sides of the issue.

The question as asked is impossible to answer. Well, not impossible but all you will get is opinions on both sides.

I'm staying out of this one.

Speedy Petey

DUH!

What's the date today????

Oh man, I totally miss this one. The laughing emoticon wasn't even enough clue for me.

randomkiller

Union membership brings many benefits to working people. One of the major benefits includes weekly earnings. The data below show that union workers, on average, made $161 or 27% more per week than nonunion workers in 2003. Furthermore, when breaking it down to both industries and occupational categories, the union difference becomes even clearer.

Frequently asked questions
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Tell me more about a local union and how it works.

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Speedy Petey

Well I am convinced!

As of 5:06PM EDT I have folded my business and applied to the union. They told me I would receive journeyman wages right off the bat because of my varied and extensive experience.
I start tomorrow (April 2, 2008) in NYC, a mere 2+ hour ride to my new digs. The 5 hours a day travel time will be well worth it for the exorbitant sum of money I will be making.

Wish me luck!

Mountain Electrician

oldman

apparently math and comparisons are not a strong point though

randomkiller

you'd have to see the whole article.

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oldman

no i don't....i just have to see the "more dramatic" difference for minorities....compared to the average union employee

Louieb

Random dont forget the 4percent kick back er I meant working dues,deducted..Good gig if you are working,real ugly these days if you aren't.heard Local 102 members are so steamed they might picket their own hall!

randomkiller

I wouldn't know about not working. Other than vacations and sick days I haven't been out of work. And with the dues taken out I still do better than any non union electrician in my area.

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oldman

random, what local are you out of?

John

And what are you paying for union dues?

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Bkessler

I still do better than any non union electrician in my area.[/quote]

You mean you have talked to every non union electrician and compared pay checks and bennie packages. You should have posted that fact months ago.

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joeyuk

I am a "A" member of local 164 in North Jerseywhich happens to border 102 territory. You pay just under $300 per year in dues and we pay 2% of your gross working assessments per month. The percentage varies local to local. They are called working assessments because they are only paid when you are working. For that matter your dues are waived on a month to month bases if out of work.
Additionally 164 has a supplemental unemployment fund which pays members $250 per week so long as they are seeking work thru the hall.

Local union 102 is a bit of a sore subject in this area. And that is all I have to say about that local.

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LawnGuyLandSparky

Kick back? You mean union dues and/or dues assessments? Geez, you think that after deducting that chump change from a union member's paycheck it brings him closer to nonunion wages?

brian john

This is generally true the BIGGEST advantage IMO is if a open shop fails, your wages, retirement, health and welfare may not be the same elsewhere. Portability of bennies major plus with union.


This may be location dependent, pretty much the same for open shop VS union in this area.