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11-06-2009, 08:10 AM
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Licensed Journeyman
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: third world
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Originally Posted by brian john
If I die and go to Heaven and Bob Badger is God, I will take the elevator to hell.
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ahmen brother
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11-07-2009, 06:02 AM
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#262
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Registered Member
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 2,575
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Originally Posted by EDM
I'm sure you are a good worker, there are many of them in the IBEW.
However, there are also a LOT of a slugs. For you to deny that means you've either had your eyes shut or just haven't been around too many other men from the hall.
Every employer has a workforce that fits into a bell-curve. Call the least-productive "slugs" if you want. But don't think for a minute there aren't any slugs working nonunion or for an "IECA" contractor.
FWIW, I was with a shop for the last 3 years that pretty much kept their men and didn't call the hall very often. Because of that, all I saw were the hard working shop guys. That might be your situation. But as soon as we got a larger job and needed more manpower, BAM! We were hit with an influx of GARBAGE.
blah blah blah...
and... one night, at band camp...
Tell you what - once I was salting a nonunion shop - and the ENTIRE COMPANY was slugs and nobody had a clue!!! This is now, of course, to be taken as gospel because it has been MY experience... right?
How could a man who is making a package of $75 per hour possibly think it's right to stop working at 2:45, knowing that he is paid until 3:30? How could he think it's ok to take 15 minutes extra on break, 20 minutes extra on lunch, and then go get lost for 30 minutes while he is "going to the bathroom"? How could a man think it's ok to wire up lights slowly for $75 per hour because he doesn't want to start a new task?
The better question is, how can someone get away with this UNLESS... the FOREMAN on this shop-rocket jobsite was sleeping?
HMMMMM?
The funny thing is how LGLS defends this, I worked in NYC, I worked next to local 3 members, I was DISGUSTED.
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But not disgusted with the paycheck, huh?
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11-07-2009, 06:21 AM
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#263
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: rome, ga.
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lawnguy, do you actually, really, no b.s., WORK ??????? just wonderin' ... 
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11-07-2009, 05:44 PM
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#264
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Originally Posted by paul d.
lawnguy, do you actually, really, no b.s., WORK ??????? just wonderin' ... |
Yes Paul... I work. Supervision. General Foreman on a Transit job.
W/O gping into details, it's $4500.00 a week clear.
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11-07-2009, 05:47 PM
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#265
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Not Peter D
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: USA
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Originally Posted by LawnGuyLandSparky
Yes Paul... I work. Supervision. General Foreman on a Transit job.
W/O gping into details, it's $4500.00 a week clear.
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Do you feel like a big guy now bragging about how much you make?
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11-07-2009, 06:27 PM
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#266
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Not Peter D
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: South Eastern MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LawnGuyLandSparky
Yes Paul... I work. Supervision. General Foreman on a Transit job.
W/O gping into details, it's $4500.00 a week clear.
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Do you deserve that rate of pay or could you be replaced with a mannequin without anyone noticing?
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11-07-2009, 06:31 PM
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#267
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Not Peter D
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: USA
Posts: 5,401
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Badger
Do you deserve that rate of pay or could you be replaced with a mannequin without anyone noticing?
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I'd like the details on how you can take home $112.50 an hour.
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11-07-2009, 07:33 PM
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#268
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el abogado del diablo
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: belly of the beast
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LawnGuyLandSparky
Yes Paul... I work. Supervision. General Foreman on a Transit job.
W/O gping into details, it's $4500.00 a week clear.
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ironically, if a 363 company has their way, you're current company may follow the other 16 you've worked at...
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11-07-2009, 08:23 PM
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#269
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Seen your member
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Cornpatch USA
Posts: 9,988
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter D
Do you feel like a big guy now bragging about how much you make?
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Shoot. I make $7500 a week selling knives to rats so they can stab their co-workers in the backs.
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11-07-2009, 09:54 PM
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Shameless Troll
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: California
Posts: 512
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 480sparky
Shoot. I make $7500 a week selling knives to rats so they can stab their co-workers in the backs.
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Those knives had to be made in China to make a margin like that!!! 
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11-07-2009, 09:55 PM
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Seen your member
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Cornpatch USA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by miller_elex
Those knives had to be made in China to make a margin like that!!! |
I just buy worn out screwdrivers from Peter D and grind them down. 
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11-07-2009, 10:08 PM
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Thread Pirate
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LawnGuyLandSparky
Yes Paul... I work. Supervision. General Foreman on a Transit job.
W/O gping into details, it's $4500.00 a week clear.
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Wow, so I guess when you said you were in your 80s, retired, and living off the income from your rentals you were just blowing smoke?
You are one of those guys who has a good answer ready for any occasion.
Can I get the blue cool-aid next time, the red one getting old.
Last edited by PhatElvis; 11-07-2009 at 10:09 PM.
Reason: Rolling eyes so hard, I messed it up the first time...
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11-08-2009, 04:10 AM
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#273
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Member
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Washington
Posts: 81
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nice avatar 480.... lmao
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11-08-2009, 04:41 AM
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Registered Member
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 2,575
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter D
Do you feel like a big guy now bragging about how much you make?
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Not really - just having a job is bragging these days, if you read these boards. But if it makes you feel any better - the hours really do suck.
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11-08-2009, 04:43 AM
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Registered Member
Join Date: Nov 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter D
I'd like the details on how you can take home $112.50 an hour.
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Why are you dividing by 40?
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11-08-2009, 04:54 AM
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#276
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Registered Member
Join Date: Nov 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PhatElvis
Wow, so I guess when you said you were in your 80s, retired, and living off the income from your rentals you were just blowing smoke?
I said this when?
You are one of those guys who has a good answer ready for any occasion.
Can I get the blue cool-aid next time, the red one getting old.
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Tell you what Elvis -
There are no apprentices on this job.
The typical j-man earns :
49.00
X 1.5 (night work)
x 35 hours
$2572.50
Now... we work an additional 2 hours nightly. That's 3,307.50.
Journeymen electricians, even when compounding rates such as overtime, high time, hazard pay, do not HAVE to be compensated any more than 2x their normal rate. But not so for foremen, who although are journeymen electricians, also get forman pay and that's based on a minimum 4.50 hour to hold the ticket and then more depending on the size of the crew being supervised.
Now you have to tell me - if you have a man running a crew of 30, how much more than that highest paid journeyman are you going to pay the guy running the whole shebang? 100 bucks a week? 200 bucks a week?
I'd really like to know how cheap you are...
Maybe I already do.
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11-08-2009, 07:57 AM
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Lurker...
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Stratford, CT
Posts: 175
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LawnGuyLandSparky
Tell you what Elvis -
There are no apprentices on this job.
The typical j-man earns :
49.00
X 1.5 (night work)
x 35 hours
$2572.50
Now... we work an additional 2 hours nightly. That's 3,307.50.
Journeymen electricians, even when compounding rates such as overtime, high time, hazard pay, do not HAVE to be compensated any more than 2x their normal rate. But not so for foremen, who although are journeymen electricians, also get forman pay and that's based on a minimum 4.50 hour to hold the ticket and then more depending on the size of the crew being supervised.
Now you have to tell me - if you have a man running a crew of 30, how much more than that highest paid journeyman are you going to pay the guy running the whole shebang? 100 bucks a week? 200 bucks a week?
I'd really like to know how cheap you are...
Maybe I already do.
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How many weeks a year do you actually earn $4500 a week?
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11-08-2009, 08:43 AM
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#278
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Registered Member
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 947
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 480sparky
Shoot. I make $7500 a week selling knives to rats so they can stab their co-workers in the backs.
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do you sell cheese cutting knives also
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11-08-2009, 08:59 AM
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#279
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Not Peter D
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: USA
Posts: 5,401
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LawnGuyLandSparky
Why are you dividing by 40?
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Because you didn't provide any other information so I assumed a 40 hour work week.
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11-08-2009, 10:24 AM
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#280
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Unlimited Lic.Electrician
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Charlotte N.C.
Posts: 7,768
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 480sparky
Shoot. I make $7500 a week selling knives to rats so they can stab their co-workers in the backs.
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