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rewire · 11-03-2009, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Badger

And again I can thank you for really showing your true, childish self.

Maybe someday when you grow up you and I can speak as men.

Typical Rat ,how are you going to speak as a man does your health insurance cover gender reasignmaent

Bob Badger · 11-03-2009, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by rewire

Typical Rat ,how are you going to speak as a man does your health insurance cover gender reasignmaent

Wow, I guess I will have to go and cry now.

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480sparky · 11-03-2009, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by rewire

RAT shop workers beg on their knees while kissing the bossess ass for a penny raise at the same time stabbing their co workers in the back so they can take their penny that they earned.Hey boss I will supply the ladder,Hey boss I will use my own truck,Hey boss I will work a few minutes off the clock,Hey boss I don't need help carrying that 200LB gear,Hey boss you don't have to pay drive time,Hey boss I will work it HOT.

You don't get out much, do you?

Do you honestly think this is the only way it is outside the union? Or is this just the union hall rhetoric that's been drilled into your brain so often and so much that you blindly accept it as 'truth'?

FWIW, the last shop I worked at as an employee, every raise I got was not by kissing the boss's áss or sucking on his dîck. And it wasn't tied to a scheduled performance review either.

The boss would just walk up to me one day on the job site and say "Hey, you've been doing such good work we're going to raise your hourly rate by $x.00 an hour". Sometimes it was $1. Sometimes $2. Once it was $4.

If being a rat means working for money, and working harder for more money, then lead me to the cheese.

rewire · 11-03-2009, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by brian john

It is sad to believe REWIRE actually believes this, he has watched to many union videos, or has lead a really sheltered life.

Rewire you need to join the real world for god sakes grow a set.

While you were warm in your bed I was standing the line. I started in this trade making $2.10/hr with the only benefit was a paycheck that cashed.I worked non union shops for the first 15 years and I have a pretty good understanding of the RAT mentality because I had it.I bought tools ,ladders and used my own truck all just to keep one foot ahead of the other guy who was trying to stand on my back.I was young and gave no thought to the future I kicked the bottom rung off the ladder cause I didn't use it.I begged for every nickel raise and thought it was something.I have been sent home many a friday because I wasn't going to be paid overtime so don't even try and get on a high horse with me Brian Ihaven't just been around the block I built the damn thing.
I was organized for 15 years and from the minute I was I realized how much I had gained.
The really funny thing is being in business you would not dare take on a new customer without a well spelled out contract but you refuse to have a contract with employees which is what the IBEW does.

rewire · 11-03-2009, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Badger

Wow, I guess I will have to go and cry now.

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or you could just sulk back to Holts site were you can play at being god

Bob Badger · 11-03-2009, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by rewire

While you were warm in your bed I was standing the line. I started in this trade making $2.10/hr with the only benefit was a paycheck that cashed.I worked non union shops for the first 15 years and I have a pretty good understanding of the RAT mentality because I had it.I bought tools ,ladders and used my own truck all just to keep one foot ahead of the other guy who was trying to stand on my back.I was young and gave no thought to the future I kicked the bottom rung off the ladder cause I didn't use it.I begged for every nickel raise and thought it was something.I have been sent home many a friday because I wasn't going to be paid overtime so don't even try and get on a high horse with me Brian Ihaven't just been around the block I built the damn thing.

Sounds like you where a first class patsy.

Did you ever think of refusing to work for those types of shops?

Maybe quiting and finding a good shop?

If anyone likes to work union thats great, more power to them. It's a big world with lots of choices. But shut the F up about things you obviously do not know about. Not all open shops treat the workers like you let yourself be treated.

EDM · 11-03-2009, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by rewire

I worked non union shops for the first 15 years and I have a pretty good understanding of the RAT mentality because I had it.I bought tools ,ladders and used my own truck all just to keep one foot ahead of the other guy who was trying to stand on my back.I was young and gave no thought to the future I kicked the bottom rung off the ladder cause I didn't use it.I begged for every nickel raise and thought it was something.

There's your problem right there. You did not stand up for yourself, you worked for crappy contractors that took advantage of you.

You should have voted with your feet and walked away and found a better job.

What is so hard to understand about that?

Bob Badger · 11-03-2009, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by rewire

or you could just sulk back to Holts site were you can play at being god

Well first you would have to teach me how to sulk, you seem pretty top notch at that.

As far as being a God? Wow, I did not know you felt that way about me, kind of creepy.

No your stuck with me here and there.

Thomps · 11-03-2009, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by rewire

whats unbelievable is the number of people who think like you

And how do do I think exactly?

Thus far, I have only expressed (on this thread anyway) my amazment that you could take such a stance on issues that I am afraid that you don't fully understand.

your assessment of a "rat worker" and rat mentality is so fabricated that it is unbelievable.

rewire · 11-03-2009, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Badger

Well first you would have to teach me how to sulk, you seem pretty top notch at that.

As far as being a God? Wow, I did not know you felt that way about me, kind of creepy.

No your stuck with me here and there.

not big G small g

rewire · 11-03-2009, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by EDM

There's your problem right there. You did not stand up for yourself, you worked for crappy contractors that took advantage of you.

You should have voted with your feet and walked away and found a better job.

What is so hard to understand about that?

Quit and go were? I quit and I have no job but still have bills and you quit you draw no unemployment. Shooting myself in the foot did not make sense I remember once everyone was going to go to the boss and ask together for a decent raise but he got wind of it and dangled change to a couple of guys and our united front fell apart.
Really would anyone quit their job today with unemployment going around 15% over not getting a raise?Its times like these that puts an employer in the drivers seat if the boss told you to buy a new ladder to keep your jod I bet most would be on their way to Lowes.

rewire · 11-03-2009, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomps

And how do do I think exactly?

with limited brain cells

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Thus far, I have only expressed (on this thread anyway) my amazment that you could take such a stance on issues that I am afraid that you don't fully understand.

then please bestow on us your vast understanding of the issue

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your assessment of a "rat worker" and rat mentality is so fabricated that it is unbelievable.

and you know this because.....

Bob Badger · 11-03-2009, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by rewire

Quit and go were? I quit and I have no job but still have bills and you quit you draw no unemployment. Shooting myself in the foot did not make sense I remember once everyone was going to go to the boss and ask together for a decent raise but he got wind of it and dangled change to a couple of guys and our united front fell apart.
Really would anyone quit their job today with unemployment going around 15% over not getting a raise?Its times like these that puts an employer in the drivers seat if the boss told you to buy a new ladder to keep your jod I bet most would be on their way to Lowes.

So your answer is to demand high wages in times of 15% unemployment. Good plan, can you explain where that money might come from?

Kind of short sighted but that is your choice.

Lawnguysparky is always quick to say thinks like

'I would rather work for $80 per hr for 1/2 year than $40 for a full year.'

It's really a great sound bite, it would play well on the news. But the reality is most will be lucky if they work at all this year for $80 per hr.

brian john · 11-03-2009, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by rewire

While you were warm in your bed I was standing the line. I started in this trade making $2.10/hr with the only benefit was a paycheck that cashed.I worked non union shops for the first 15 years and I have a pretty good understanding of the RAT mentality because I had it.I bought tools ,ladders and used my own truck all just to keep one foot ahead of the other guy who was trying to stand on my back.I was young and gave no thought to the future I kicked the bottom rung off the ladder cause I didn't use it.I begged for every nickel raise and thought it was something.I have been sent home many a friday because I wasn't going to be paid overtime so don't even try and get on a high horse with me Brian Ihaven't just been around the block I built the damn thing.
I was organized for 15 years and from the minute I was I realized how much I had gained.
The really funny thing is being in business you would not dare take on a new customer without a well spelled out contract but you refuse to have a contract with employees which is what the IBEW does.

80% of my work is completed without a contract. So blows that idea.

brian john · 11-03-2009, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Badger

Well first you would have to teach me how to sulk, you seem pretty top notch at that.

As far as being a God? Wow, I did not know you felt that way about me, kind of creepy.

No your stuck with me here and there.

If I die and go to Heaven and Bob Badger is God, I will take the elevator to hell.

rewire · 11-03-2009, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Badger

So your answer is to demand high wages in times of 15% unemployment. Good plan, can you explain where that money might come from?

Kind of short sighted but that is your choice.

Lawnguysparky is always quick to say thinks like

'I would rather work for $80 per hr for 1/2 year than $40 for a full year.'

It's really a great sound bite, it would play well on the news. But the reality is most will be lucky if they work at all this year for $80 per hr.

were did I say demand higher wages ??? If you ar going to quote me at least get acurate or use the quote feature

Thomps · 11-03-2009, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by rewire

with limited brain cells

then please bestow on us your vast understanding of the issue

and you know this because.....

oh tisk tisk. Limited brain cells eh?! I don't think you're interested at all in debate or conversation. but only in stirring the pot and creating a wee pissing contest. if I've got the wrong impression of your intetions, then please feel free to correct me.

if you're truely interested in my position in labour issues then feel free to ask, I'm always willing to discuss training, safety, career opportunities, labour relations, etc.

You're position regarding rat mentaility is about as realistic as someone taking the position that only the lazy and uneducated turn to the union. it's misleading and insulting.