CLICK HERE AND JOIN OUR COMMUNITY TODAY, IT'S FREE!
Go Back   Electrician Talk - Professional Electrical Contractors Forum > Electrical Trade Topics > Residential Electrical Forum

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 08-19-2011, 08:19 PM   #21
Premium Member
 
dronai's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: California
Posts: 5,407
Rewards Points: 2,000
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter D View Post
Generally speaking, any house built before that code change will likely have all the bathroom and outdoor receptacles on one 15 amp circuit, protected by a GFCI breaker or receptacle near the panel, or in the garage if you're in a "no basements" area.

Peter, I'm getting MS Paint lessons here !!! I already highjacked the thread ! Sorry Chris. 480sparky is the master of computer/NEC skills

We used to wire all new houses on 15A circuits, for the general convenience outlets. Then with the hairdryers on, along with everything else on, the breakers were always tripping. Then the new code into effect requiring a dedicated 20A circuit NEC 210.11(C) (3)

dronai is offline   Reply With Quote
Join Contractor Talk

Join the #1 Electrician Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

ElectricianTalk.com - Are you a Professional Electrical Contractor? If so we invite you to join our community and see what it has to offer. Our site is specifically designed for you and it's the leading place for electricians to meet online. No homeowners asking DIY questions. Just fellow tradesmen who enjoy talking about their business, their trade, and anything else that comes up. No matter what your specialty is you'll find that ElectricianTalk.com is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally free!

Join ElectricianTalk.com - Click Here JOIN FOR FREE


Warning: The topics covered on this site include activities in which there exists the potential for serious injury or death. ElectricianTalk.com DOES NOT guarantee the accuracy or completeness of any information contained on this site. Always use proper safety precaution and reference reliable outside sources before attempting any construction or remodeling task!

Old 08-19-2011, 08:45 PM   #22
Dr Evil
 
Shockdoc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Long Island,NY & Poconos
Posts: 14,599
Rewards Points: 2,002
Default

I did a quick bathroom today removed a double gang with a sw/receptacle and a single w/ a combo stack single pole. The stack was fed from a seperate 20 amp dedicated ckt. I installed one four gang box and used the #12 ckt for the GFI even though it shares a ex fan and heat lamp. Is this a legitimate conversion since that #12 wire feeds only that bathroom?
Shockdoc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-2011, 09:12 PM   #23
Premium Member
 
dronai's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: California
Posts: 5,407
Rewards Points: 2,000
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shockdoc View Post
I did a quick bathroom today removed a double gang with a sw/receptacle and a single w/ a combo stack single pole. The stack was fed from a seperate 20 amp dedicated ckt. I installed one four gang box and used the #12 ckt for the GFI even though it shares a ex fan and heat lamp. Is this a legitimate conversion since that #12 wire feeds only that bathroom?
Exception: Where the 20A circuit supplies a single bathroom, outlets for other equipment within the same bathroom, shall be permitted to be supplied in accordance with 219.23(A) (1) and (A) (2)

Exception: 219.23 (A) The small appliance branch circuits, laundry branch circuits, and bathroom branch circuits required in a dwelling, shall supply only receptacle outlets.
dronai is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-2011, 07:53 PM   #24
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: santa cruz ca
Posts: 17
Rewards Points: 10
Default may the force be with you

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris1971 View Post
In what code cycle did the requirement for 20 amp circuit for bathroom receptacles take place? Did a service call in a town home built in 1991 and the receptacles had #14 to the receptacles.
Who ever wired the house missed the mark. A blow dryer "might" hold on a 15amp circuit, but the 2008 NEC only allows you to wire only receptacles in the same bath on a 20amp, that doent mean any lights or fans on that same 20 amp circuit. The northern California inspectors look at that very closely......
PureElectric is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-2011, 07:59 PM   #25
I own stock in FotoMat!
 
480sparky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Cornpatch USA
Posts: 35,228
Rewards Points: 2,048
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by PureElectric View Post
Who ever wired the house missed the mark. A blow dryer "might" hold on a 15amp circuit, but the 2008 NEC only allows you to wire only receptacles in the same bath on a 20amp, that doent mean any lights or fans on that same 20 amp circuit. The northern California inspectors look at that very closely......

How do you expect someone back in 1991 to wire a bathroom to 2008 Codes?
__________________
Ark: ..............Arch: ................. Arc:
480sparky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2011, 04:14 PM   #26
NJ-IEC Member
 
Magnettica's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Rahway, NJ
Posts: 14,124
Rewards Points: 2,000
Default

When I was coming up the popular thing to do was do all the exterior, bathroom, and basement receptacles that needed to be GFCI protected to be line/ load from the GFCI receptacle in an attached garage, closest to the MB panel. Talk about cheap, cheap, cheap. Knowing some of the older codes definitely gives you an advantage when troubleshooting I have found.
__________________
Replies based on NEC 2014
Magnettica is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2011, 06:34 PM   #27
Senior Member
 
Aegis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Canada, Toronto
Posts: 1,311
Rewards Points: 510
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dronai
Better, but the OL's are too small to make them right
If you ever want to upgrade try Adobe Illustrator

Aegis is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
6 Drops per 15 A circuit/8 Drops per 20 A circuit. Whats your opinion? romexrocket NEC Code Forum 32 06-11-2010 06:38 AM
Code Cycle - 20A GFCI required for bathrooms rexowner NEC Code Forum 13 05-20-2009 11:01 AM
lv in residential te12co2w Other Codes and Standards 4 02-04-2009 03:03 PM
lv in residential te12co2w Structured Wiring 3 02-04-2009 09:43 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:22 PM.


Copyright 2006-2014 Escalate Media LP. All Rights Reserved
Our Pro Sites Network
ContractorTalk.com | DrywallTalk.com | HVACSite.com | PaintTalk.com | PlumbingZone.com | RoofingTalk.com