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Old 03-18-2017, 12:36 PM   #1
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Default Basement Layout - How does it look?

There are 2 pot lights directly in front of the wall mount TV that I may delete. My client says the room will get converted into a party room frequently though.
There is an exit to a walk out patio with french doors.
There are two entrances to the basement from the main floor and they are already wired to two separate lights at the basement landing. I would Ideally like to have one light operated by either switch. Any suggestions?

Be as critical as you like! I'm still very new to designing layouts.

Edit: I forgot a jumper to a pot above the toilet.
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Nice. No switches at the patio door (indoor/outdoor lighting)? Do they want more exterior receptacles since you have access?
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I still think the lighting in the main room is crazy.

2 rows of 5 would be plenty of light for everything other than nano-surgery.
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Nice. No switches at the patio door (indoor/outdoor lighting)? Do they want more exterior receptacles since you have access?
Yeah there is already a switch to an exterior light. I guess the builder did it. Should I add a 3 way at the patio door for the rec room lights? Is that code?
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I still think the lighting in the main room is crazy.

2 rows of 5 would be plenty of light for everything other than nano-surgery.
That room is 17 x 38. Three rows on a dimmer I think is less risky than not having enough light don't you think?
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That room is 17 x 38. Three rows on a dimmer I think is less risky than not having enough light don't you think?
Or maybe bump up to 6" for a few bucks more.

BTW, I am not saying to listen to me, it's just that it seems like a lot of lights.
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I still think the lighting in the main room is crazy.

2 rows of 5 would be plenty of light for everything other than nano-surgery.
It's wicked bright yo.
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Added the panel picture which is full. I may need to price out a sub panel too but I know anyone else quoting will just add mini breakers to make room.
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Added the panel picture which is full. I may need to price out a sub panel too but I know anyone else quoting will just add mini breakers to make room.
You have to stress the NEED for it vs the lower bidder....Or offer some sort of grouping discount, yeah?
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Fewer pots.
1 receptacle in hall is plenty.
1 receptacle each side of expected bed location. Not code but I still it consider
a minimum.
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I avoid putting more than 3 switches in a single box. Too hard to remember
what does what. Like to break them into 2 2gangs, or whatever makes sense.
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Some really good input here. Thanks fellas
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I avoid putting more than 3 switches in a single box. Too hard to remember
what does what. Like to break them into 2 2gangs, or whatever makes sense.
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For the little kitchenette I will likely separate the two switch banks as suggested. One two for pots in open space and two for kitchenette (under cabinet/pots)
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Depending on the elevation of the building's sewer outlet you may need a macerator pump for the new bathroom in the basement.
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That room is 17 x 38. Three rows on a dimmer I think is less risky than not having enough light don't you think?
Absolutely. Imagine if you put this plan on your tablet and combined it with photos of previous jobs and catalog cuts of the products you like to use. You're miles ahead of Bare Bones Electric and his quote written on a piece of cardboard with a felt pen. You can sit down with the customer and discuss priorities and budget professionally.

This is something I'm working on myself since, previously, I had GC's and interior designers do it for me.

Ignore the guys who say you can do it with ten fixtures. Sure you can but 21 will give you very nice uniformity. If there are budget concerns, you can reduce your fixture count but your customer can expect dark spots. If you recommend ten and you have dark spots then you're in a chit load of trouble.

You're better off presenting the gold plan and trimming the fat to meet budget. If you start with bronze, you might turn it into silver but gold will be impossible.

Think like a plumber. A plumber will sell a jetted tub with all the bells and whistles. If an electrician went into plumbing, he would sell a beat up tub from the clearance section at HD because "that's all they need".
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I think 3 ways on the stairways and from the main switches to the French doors would be a great addition while you're still able to easily get them done. Maybe even a 4 way for the stairways, one at the bottom and one at each landing upstairs. I assume the jumper you are missing for the toilet can is wired in with the exhaust fan? If not I think that would also be a good idea. Also having that many cans in a room I would suggest zoning them so you don't have everything on at once. Will you be using led trims on these? Seems like a lot of lighting on one switch if not, especially if dimmers will be used.


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You have laid this out almost exactly how I would do it. I'm with P & L, though. I rarely install anything more than three gangs.

Put a damn alarm on that fridge if you have to arc fault it .
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I think 3 ways on the stairways and from the main switches to the French doors would be a great addition while you're still able to easily get them done. Maybe even a 4 way for the stairways, one at the bottom and one at each landing upstairs. I assume the jumper you are missing for the toilet can is wired in with the exhaust fan? If not I think that would also be a good idea. Also having that many cans in a room I would suggest zoning them so you don't have everything on at once. Will you be using led trims on these? Seems like a lot of lighting on one switch if not, especially if dimmers will be used.


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You have laid this out almost exactly how I would do it. I'm with P & L, though. I rarely install anything more than three gangs.

Put a damn alarm on that fridge if you have to arc fault it .
There is a mini fridge that I will have to afci but it's just for drinks. The larger fridge near the south wall will be dedicated and no afci.
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8 outlets at the tv and prewire for badass sound system. Maybe outlets and sound high up on the wall behind the tv to hide the rat's nest.

You don't show power in the utility room for washer & dryer and an iron.
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