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Old 04-20-2017, 10:05 PM   #61
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Dumb question but would you ever consider a bolt in panel in residential?
Those bolt-in AFCIs are mighty expensive...
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Old 04-20-2017, 10:13 PM   #62
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Oh okay, I was thinking like in less time than that. Once a panel hits 40 years old I think it's time to replace it.
I suggested that, and gave them a great deal of $800 per panel with conditions. But they have 59 houses(54 now) and didn't have it in the budget. My conditions where that I have 3 houses avalible everyday for 18 days straight. Then they all get done in the time period. I get a break on pricing from my SH and the truck is setup to do only this work. Fast and efficient, I can change one in 3-1/2 hours now. I think I can get it down to just over two. For now I'm doing it for just under a grand, depending on how much damage there is.
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I suggested that, and gave them a great deal of $800 per panel with conditions. But they have 59 houses(54 now) and didn't have it in the budget. My conditions where that I have 3 houses avalible everyday for 18 days straight. Then they all get done in the time period. I get a break on pricing from my SH and the truck is setup to do only this work. Fast and efficient, I can change one in 3-1/2 hours now. I think I can get it down to just over two. For now I'm doing it for just under a grand, depending on how much damage there is.

In the job markets I come from that is a great price.
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In the job markets I come from that is a great price.
This is the same guy that mixed up and poured 56 bags of concrete. He likes the punishment.
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This is the same guy that mixed up and poured 56 bags of concrete. He likes the punishment.
If he has one customer with close to 60 houses he is doing something right!
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If he has one customer with close to 60 houses he is doing something right!

If you are wiring 60 houses for one customer, you are doing something wrong. It "the something" is called wiring houses for a developer, notorious for screwing the subs at the end quarter of the project, and beating them down on price at the start to the end that they have to hire illegals and pay them 5 bucks an hour to miswire the project.....
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If you are wiring 60 houses for one customer, you are doing something wrong. It "the something" is called wiring houses for a developer, notorious for screwing the subs at the end quarter of the project, and beating them down on price at the start to the end that they have to hire illegals and pay them 5 bucks an hour to miswire the project.....
Didn't take them as new work, I took it as service customers.
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Didn't take them as new work, I took it as service customers.
I just fix them. They called today with two more problems, old houses with worn out receptacles and switches. Lots of work, always pay timely and never complain.
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I just fix them. They called today with two more problems, old houses with worn out receptacles and switches. Lots of work, always pay timely and never complain.
Yeah that is how I took them from your post.
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This is the same guy that mixed up and poured 56 bags of concrete. He likes the punishment.
Not much else I could do there. Truck wouldn't have made it into my site. Besides, I was just eluding to the false idea that solar is somehow the glamour side of electrical. At 58, just the fact I can still hump the bags and shovel that much is mud is a good thing. Not to mention working 16 hours a day. I would usually take two days, but rain was not my friend this week.
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Dumb question but would you ever consider a bolt in panel in residential?
I have done it a few times. Normally on a 400 ampere service with electric heat. The one we are doing right now is a 600 I line with 5-200 amp panel boards. The guy is a controls electrician and wants no corners cut. Ordered the gear as a job and it really wasn't all that much more than hacking in a bunch of POS panels.
The AFCI breakers were not all that bad when ordered as a job they had to quote, but they definitely stick in you ass on a replacement.
For the extra $200 I would do it in my house.
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