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11-09-2009, 09:44 PM
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11-09-2009, 11:19 PM
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11-10-2009, 10:35 AM
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thats because there isnt one  |
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so you can, its just not good worksmanship!!!
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11-10-2009, 10:44 AM
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312.8
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I posted that you could not use a panel as a pull box. After reading 312.8 again I discovered that I was wrong.  
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11-10-2009, 12:53 PM
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ok!!!
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11-10-2009, 01:46 PM
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I hope it wasn't on Hotel St
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11-10-2009, 04:10 PM
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Negative, read further: "...unless adequate space for this purpose is provided....the conductors, splices and taps shall not fill the wiring space at any cross section to more than 75 percent of the cross sectional area..." (2005 NEC)
So a panel used as a pull box/jbox, you are in the clear.
oops, yep...got confused there, duhhh!
Last edited by BuzzKill; 11-10-2009 at 04:15 PM.
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11-10-2009, 04:21 PM
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yes no always never sometimes
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11-10-2009, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Badger
yes no always never sometimes
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seems that way at times: I've had bosses/inspectors try and flag me on that...
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11-11-2009, 12:17 AM
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pull box /junction box
At the construction site where I am working, yesterday I saw a 50 cal ammo box...the green ones that you can buy at army surplus used as a junction box. So is Tupperware the JB of the future?
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11-11-2009, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by BuzzKill
seems that way at times: I've had bosses/inspectors try and flag me on that...
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I have had bosses say no to it.
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11-11-2009, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by nolabama
I have had bosses say no to it.
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It's alljust cosmetics.
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11-14-2009, 03:00 PM
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What else are you going to do with an old FPE panel?
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11-14-2009, 03:47 PM
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I've done it on panels that were set in old block walls. What else can you do in that situation? Had a cover made up out of #12 steel and painted it grey, threw it on and there ya go!
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11-15-2009, 02:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sparks134
can a panel be used as a pullbox?
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Yes I do, and have done it for 30 years, in 5 counties.
I use sheet metal from an old panel to cover the breaker dead front.
If the panel is recessed in the stucco I fish a few 3/4 flex into a J-box and run conduit to the new panel location.
After swing service, I pull the old mast, seal the roof, and do the change over.
Have never put one in but have seen panels piggybacked.
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11-15-2009, 02:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BuzzKill
seems that way at times: I've had bosses/inspectors try and flag me on that...
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Me too. I drove it down their throat and made them look like the fools they were.
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11-15-2009, 09:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Power Tech
I use sheet metal from an old panel to cover the breaker dead front.
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Nice, I've just slapped a couple of self-tappers on and called it done. 
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11-15-2009, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Rudeboy
Nice, I've just slapped a couple of self-tappers on and called it done. |
Yea, I go too far but, I open the cover and see the wire and ..... just couldn't leave it. 
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11-15-2009, 10:23 PM
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Ok somebody straighten me out on this. I can see if you replace a service or some dummy cuts a wire too short or what have you maybe having a splice or a few splices in a panel but somebody fathom for me why you would have to use a panel as a pull box.
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11-15-2009, 10:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rdr
Ok somebody straighten me out on this. I can see if you replace a service or some dummy cuts a wire too short or what have you maybe having a splice or a few splices in a panel but somebody fathom for me why you would have to use a panel as a pull box.
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A pull box does not have connections, this is a J-box there are connections in it.
Answer----All the breakers are in it, you remove the guts and make the connections.
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