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Old 05-03-2010, 07:25 PM   #1
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Default Gutted house rewire, anything new since 2005?

Alright so here's the situation. My brother purchased a home at an auction for like 5k, it was so bad everything had to be gutted and redone (including trusts and roof). The only thing original on the house is the brick wall.

So he came to me to see about getting the electrical job and keeping it under budget. I haven't wired a house in about 4 years but i've wired around probably 50-100 residential houses while i was an electrician (as foreman) and probably 100 houses as a helper. Got a good offer on another job and left the electrical field.

We've got the permit pulled so there will be an inspection, i'm assuming we are still going off the 2008 NEC? Has the 2011 been released?

Are there any changes that anybody might be able to let me in on that i should know? Any major changes?

I'll probably pick up whichever version of the NEC i will need and run through it, just figured i would ask here first.

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Old 05-03-2010, 07:29 PM   #2
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You first need to ask AHJ what code cycle your on... NEVER assume

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Yeah a few....Arc fault breakers almost everywhere now....Leviton makes a "changes to the 2008" code pamphlet...you might want to start there...
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Yeah a few....Arc fault breakers almost everywhere now....Leviton makes a "changes to the 2008" code pamphlet...you might want to start there...
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http://smartgreenbuild.com/blog/download/338/
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So just ask the inspector? I've never had to deal with any kind of "code cycle"? I worked for a small electrical company and we only had like 5 crews, i was just taught what was right and how to do it. What do you mean code cycle? Can i just call the county office?

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It makes a big difference...ask the inspector what cycle you are on.
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It makes a big difference...ask the inspector what cycle you are on.

How about just look on the permit when you pull it
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How about just look on the permit when you pull it
Yeah, that's what I usually do. The one I just got the other day (commercial) also had the ANSI 117.1-2003 spec on it that's going to be enforced as law. It has something to do with ADA requirements. I have to get a copy of it.
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How about just look on the permit when you pull it
It doesn't say what cycle you are on here in Orleans or Jefferson Parish....You know we are 30 years behind the rest of the world here.
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How about just look on the permit when you pull it
That doesn't work here either... we have (3) code cycles here in effect
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Okay so basically all they told us was "NEC 2008" ... i asked if there was anything else we needed to know for inspection and all he said was make sure it conforms to the 2008 NEC. So...i guess that's all i really need to do then. I'll look over the 2008 and that update spreadsheet posted on here.

Thanks for all your help guys!

Quick question, on the plans it has 4 GFI in the kitchen, can you no longer branch a duplex receptacle off the GFI? Before we would usually have two GFI in the kitchen and branch any other outlets off one of them.

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Check out 210.52 for the required branch circits in the Kitchen.
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Don't forget ALL receptacles, including GFI's, have to be (TR) tamper resistant.
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Are there any changes that anybody might be able to let me in on that i should know? Any major changes?
Nah, you're good.
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It doesn't say what cycle you are on here in Orleans or Jefferson Parish....You know we are 30 years behind the rest of the world here.

That's ridiculous. You need that information. I've worked in dozens of counties in VA and they all list it. Some places inspect by USBC 06' some by NEC 05'. There are some differences, gas pipe bonding for one, is MUCH MORE expensive by the USBC.
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Better question is when did you do the last wiring you said you did. The last couple editions of the NEC each had changes that have an impact on how residential wiring is done.

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So he came to me to see about getting the electrical job and keeping it under budget.
Sounds to me like you better find out what you are going to need to do before you determine what the budget is. AFCI breakers and TR receptacles alone could change what you thought you should have for a budget.
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That's ridiculous. You need that information. I've worked in dozens of counties in VA and they all list it. Some places inspect by USBC 06' some by NEC 05'. There are some differences, gas pipe bonding for one, is MUCH MORE expensive by the USBC.
Ridiculous?...Like I said, I live in Louisiana...What do you expect?...N o one wants to do their job , no one cares....the inspectors are a joke...Oh but you better have that green screw or green wire nuts on the grounds though
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Don't forget ALL receptacles, including GFI's, have to be (TR) tamper resistant.

Yeah found that out quickly and had to return most material. Good thing my good friend works for an electrical supply house


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