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Old 01-05-2017, 12:12 PM   #21
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After today, leviton can bite my ass as I had to make that long drive to replace that stupid gfi outlet in the new bathroom I did for a medical outfit when I remodeled all their offices. One or two once in a long while would be ok, but nope, If you put in 50-100 gfi receptacles every six months like I do, you start finding out you are going to have to replace around 30 of them in less than three months if you use Leviton. Done. And F*** home depot for carrying them.

I'm going to Lowes from now on and get something else.
We hardly use them in new construction anymore as we have gone to the dual GFCI/AFCI breakers. What code are you on there?
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Old 01-05-2017, 01:00 PM   #22
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we hardly use them in new construction anymore as we have gone to the dual gfci/afci breakers. What code are you on there?
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No ****ing way. And you call us backasswards?
It is a true pleasure to be on 08 still. When I remodel, I don't have to automatically add afci's if the home run is existing already.
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It is a true pleasure to be on 08 still. When I remodel, I don't have to automatically add afci's if the home run is existing already.
Oh, Don't kid yourself. If I had my choice we would still be on the 93'
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Oh, Don't kid yourself. If I had my choice we would still be on the 93'
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I can't even tell you how many Leviton GFIs I have had to return within the past year. They're a couple bucks cheaper than other manufacturers, but all that goes out the window with 1 callback.
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It seems like Leviton sold their soul to get into the big box stores. I am guessing the big boxes beat them to death on pricing, and they cut corners to stay in Lowes and HD. It's too bad, I was a big Leviton fan for 20 years, but lately, it's P&S and Hubbell. I can't afford to **** around with quality, who can?
Them and everyone else! Tools, appliances, supplies. ........Junk!
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Ive noticed the new leviton TR self testing ones are extrmemly hard to reset in comparison to older ones. Customer we just changed some at her house plugs something in and tripped it so i told her she needs to press the button and she said she did and i drove out only to find it practically takes a screw driver pressing on the reset to reset it.

I always liked the size of he plates made by leviton the midsize was great but am really liking the satin P&S plates now.
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It seems like Leviton sold their soul to get into the big box stores. I am guessing the big boxes beat them to death on pricing, and they cut corners to stay in Lowes and HD. It's too bad, I was a big Leviton fan for 20 years, but lately, it's P&S and Hubbell. I can't afford to **** around with quality, who can?
So, Lowe's carries P&S, do they not? Same logic should apply, no?
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After hearing all this I think I'll pass on Leviton.
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The shallow GFCI is nice. I in general have better luck with the P&S stuff. I think their plates are better. The nylon ones Leviton has are fine, though I prefer the satin P&S stuff. I bought some of the dual function AFCI/GFCI receptacles from both brands and it will be interesting to see how those fare.
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Pass & Seymour Trademaster plates are the best plates ever and if you use them you will automatically get my seal of approval.
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So, Lowe's carries P&S, do they not? Same logic should apply, no?
No, it doesn't seem like they made the same deal. Leviton expanded in the big boxes but disappeared from a lot of supply houses. P&S has replaced Leviton in some of the supply houses, Hubbell in others.
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Here in one case they just swapped supply houses.
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