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Old 11-14-2009, 11:03 PM   #21
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Yea I hear that. Another thing that Ive learned so far is that you just gotta let some customers go.....You could tell some people 50 bucks for an old work can (Not that I would or have ever charged that little) , between floors and they would still say thats to much......Oh well you just move on to the next one...
I keep cheep customers phone numbers on my cell, just so I don't answer by mistake.

I like it when the customer pays good with no complaints, likes my work and service.
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Old 11-14-2009, 11:53 PM   #22
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So do I. 3000 would be better but its getting harder and harder to get 2500.
1800 is getting hard to get here
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1800 is getting hard to get here
You live in a small town and get 1800? Wow, I got denied telling someone 1200 for a service change.
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You live in a small town and get 1800? Wow, I got denied telling someone 1200 for a service change.
The town is small but the Lake area is large and many of these upgrades are on older second homes of people who live in larger metro areas they expect cheaper prices so I still have to sell the sizzle.
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well if its a real easy back to back one, and I have a light week and I can easily do it by myself in a few hours Ill come down from the clouds once in a while for the quick cash. But I wont go lower than 2 grand. I wouldnt be able to sleep if I did. I dont see how you can provide your men with decent bennies and good wages working so cheap. But what do I know...
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Even though I only have temp help at the moment I still price like they are full timers. I dont see any other way if I want to grow.
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well if its a real easy back to back one, and I have a light week and I can easily do it by myself in a few hours Ill come down from the clouds once in a while for the quick cash. But I wont go lower than 2 grand. I wouldnt be able to sleep if I did. I dont see how you can provide your men with decent bennies and good wages working so cheap. But what do I know...
We do almost any upgrade in about 10 manhours my labor costs are $40.00/hr so I have so I have $400.00 in labor materials are $500.00 thats $900.00 which gives me $900.00 for overhead and profit. A residential electrician earns $15.75/hr HW is $5.00/hr retirement is $1.25/hr total package is $22.00/hr
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10 manhours @ $22/hr = $400?
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10 man hours....? really..? that sounds kind of low to me.. As does 15 an hour for a decent man...... And your the one that's been carrying on about union wages and such........(scratching my head) I have a helper that I pay 15 bucks to... yea sure you put in 5 in his retirement but most guys I know would rather have that money and do what they want with it......
what about the site visit, permit run, waiting for inspector....And before you go ape ship I'm not criticizing you just talking shop

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10 manhours @ $22/hr = $400?
he bills his guys out at $40 per hour. In CA that would be really, really low. But I dunno about Missouri.
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10 man hours....? really..? that sounds kind of low to me.. As does 15 an hour for a decent man...... And your the one that's been carrying on about union wages and such........(scratching my head) I have a helper that I pay 15 bucks to... yea sure you put in 5 in his retirement but most guys I know would rather have that money and do what they want with it......
what about the site visit, permit run, waiting for inspector....And before you go ape ship I'm not criticizing you just talking shop
start at 8 with two men one inside starting on panel the apprentice unloads material drives ground rod Ameran at 8.30 cut out, apprentice starts removing old meter by 11 the new meterbase is in the new panel is ready to start landingone guy takes lunch while one lands panel then they switch off inspection at 1130 ameren returns at 1 to reconnect back in shop by 130 total manhours 10. You get non union guys for 12/hr with no bennies its all about were you are at. My wage is a p[art of overhead and that covers site visits and permits and inspections are not always needed and when they are I take care of it.
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10 manhours @ $22/hr = $400?
labor cost is $40.00/hr more to labor cost than just wage
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