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08-25-2009, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by kornbln
What I meant was the crimping portion of certain linemans pliers.
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Is that listed for crimping splice caps?
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08-25-2009, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 480sparky
Is that listed for crimping splice caps?
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Probably. Certain Ideal lineman pliers with the crimping section and the Buchanan 4-way crimper are called out on the box.
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08-25-2009, 08:56 PM
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You boys do some nice work is all I can say. When I get home I will throw some pics up and you can let me know if I measure up..........
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A French Maid outfit and wearing a tool belt with work boots would be a nice place to start 
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08-25-2009, 11:59 PM
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Holy crap! What a house! This isn't 24 Sussex Drive in Ottawa is it?
For anyone who doesn't know, it's where the prime minister's house is.
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08-28-2009, 10:18 AM
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No no, 24 Sussex is old and falling apart. Probably K & T, too. 
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09-02-2009, 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 480sparky
Did she care about how your grounds were made up, or whether they were twisted together? Seriously, how many HOs actually see the insides of our panels?
"60 seconds" of wasted time is just that.... wasted time. Any you don't make money on resi by counting dollars, you make money in resi counting seconds.
I don't mind making them neat, but there's an extreme here that just isn't worth the time. Would you spend another 10 minutes making sure all your recep boxes are within 1/64th of an inch in height? Or taking all the twists out of the NM that's run through the holes in the studs? I know some guys who will run all their 14s into one side of the panel, and all the 12s on the other. Why? I don't know, he's on third, and I don't give a darn.
I recall a builder who would drill the holes for his electrician. He would walk around to each stud with a tape measure, making a mark 20" AFF on the face edge of the studs. Then he would go around again with his square and transfer the mark to the side of the stud. Then... he would go back around with his tape measure and mark the center of each stud along the line that's at 20". Then, and only then, would he start drill holes. His rational: If Sparky had an absolute straight shot through the studs, he'd use less wire, and therefore be cheaper. Fine, Sparky uses $1 less NM, and Bob the Builder spends a day marking the studs.
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If your drill man knows how to drill, all of your holes will be extremely close to equal, within 1/4" or so. It only takes 1.5 to 2 hours to drill out an average home...
besides I like going back to a house I wired and know where the wire is exactley and being able to tell some idiot over the phone where it is saves me time...
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09-02-2009, 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by steelersman
Well, I must admit I've never even seen the tool or used it for crimping sleeves, but I use dykes or linemans and I don't actually crimp it on the wires but rather crimp the excess sleeve so that it squeezes the wires together and then I twist them. I know, I know, I'm a hack, but hey like I said they aren't going to come undone, and in all reality, they don't even need the crimp or a wirenut if twisted well enough. |
Some counties here make us use the 4 sided crimping tool stated the crimp was designed to be used that way...
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09-03-2009, 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Lythropus
It only takes 1.5 to 2 hours to drill out an average home...
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Damn you're slower than tree sap on a cold winter day!
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09-03-2009, 04:44 PM
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Hey, I have those 
And......I can't believe anyone actually reads the information on a box of crimps 
Listing? We don't need no stinking listing.
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10-15-2009, 07:38 PM
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The romex tags are not UL listed!
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10-15-2009, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ken5156
The romex tags are not UL listed!
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WTF are you talking about?!
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10-15-2009, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ken5156
The romex tags are not UL listed!
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There are 250 posts on this thread - you will have to be a little more specific in what you are referring to.
Welcome to the forum.
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10-15-2009, 08:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnJ0906
There are 250 posts on this thread - you will have to be a little more specific in what you are referring to.
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I'll bet he means those little piece of NM sheath you put on the hot wires in a panel to label the circuit with.
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10-15-2009, 08:46 PM
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I like how in Canada you can get romex (NMD90 or loomex) with a blue jacket to identify it as an AFCI circuit.
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10-15-2009, 08:50 PM
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I like how in Canada you can get romex (NMD90 or loomex) with a blue jacket to identify it as an AFCI circuit.
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C'mon Pete, you know what to do............
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10-15-2009, 08:52 PM
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C'mon Pete, you know what to do............
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Nah, that takes too much time and effort. When you only charge $10 an hour for labor there's not much left to identify your cables, you know?
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10-15-2009, 09:00 PM
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Nah, that takes too much time and effort. When you only charge $10 an hour for labor there's not much left to identify your cables, you know?
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How about using these, then?
Oh, wait..... Never mind.
Hacks don't use staples. They just bend a 7-penny nail over.
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10-15-2009, 09:04 PM
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How about using these, then?
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Wow. I'm impressed. You even found a picture of a New England staple. And no, I don't use nails either. I don't fasten cables at all. 
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10-15-2009, 09:06 PM
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Wow. I'm impressed. You even found a picture of a New England staple. And no, I don't use nails either. I don't fasten cables at all. |
Uh, no.... I didn't 'find' a picture. I faked it. Everybody and their uncle knows I have faked every photo in the world.
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10-16-2009, 02:37 PM
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Damn you're slower than tree sap on a cold winter day!
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haha, you can tell people who wire little 3000 sq.ft. spec homes right away...sorry should have said my average home...
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