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Old 10-25-2009, 04:02 PM   #281
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Someone should start a thread to post pictures of the cash saved by not making up super duper neat panels.
I think doing a really neat panel like that is a good thing

It will be there for the next 20 - 40 years and (most) everyone who looks inside will be impressed.

I lost count at the amount of panels that look like a out of work car stereo installer did the job
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Old 10-25-2009, 11:32 PM   #282
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here are some panels we just finished up
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Old 10-26-2009, 01:31 AM   #283
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Someone should start a thread to post pictures of the cash saved by not making up super duper neat panels.
I do enjoy looking at those but I must agree, my panels are neat but some of those are just neurotic . I bet most of those guys dont work for themselves. And if one of my guys took that long to do a panel I would relegate him to outside work until he got the point. I square my wires off too but some of those look like they had a level put on them. I also think that alot of these guys just like standing in the same spot for a while. Hmm help the other guys hump wire or stand here for four hours cutting in a panel .....? Doing up a panel like that doesn't make one a better electrician it just means that you have more disposable time....And when your a two man shop time isn't always on your side...

NY Electricain.....nice panels but I personally hate the "comb over" with a passion. (Comb over is when you include all that extra wire before you land it on the breaker... ) And where I come from its always been Black, red, blue (not that it really matters)

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I may have posted this before, but here's mine:

This panel IMO is a good compromise of neatness and realistic time frame. And also think the extra time it takes to put in the lables on the wires far outweighs the time spent lining up all the neutrals and grounds.....
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Old 10-26-2009, 02:21 AM   #285
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This panel IMO is a good compromise of neatness and realistic time frame. And also think the extra time it takes to put in the lables on the wires far outweighs the time spent lining up all the neutrals and grounds.....
I sure can appreciate the labels inside the panel... I have gotten used to doing that as well.

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Old 10-26-2009, 05:06 PM   #286
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This panel IMO is a good compromise of neatness and realistic time frame. And also think the extra time it takes to put in the lables on the wires far outweighs the time spent lining up all the neutrals and grounds.....
I agree with this and your previous post, I think you hit it right on.

We're not wiring the space shuttle here..... At least I'm not.
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Old 10-26-2009, 05:14 PM   #287
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NY ELECTRIC why is the phase arrangement blue red black?
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He took the pictures in a mirror.
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Old 10-26-2009, 05:33 PM   #289
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I would think the "comb over" with all that extra wire is a code violation.

I checked, but can only find 300.34, which is for over 600 volts and deals with bending radius
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Nice work, but why the wirenuts in the panel on a new installation?

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I really don't have a problem with wire-nuts in a new panel. I bet walkerj is using that sawzall to cut his 500. That would drive me nuts.
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Are you allowed to use adjacent panels as raceways to another panel? (bottom picture) That would not be allowed here!
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I did this kind of stuff on my work term, and loved it! Too bad it takes a while to get into. It's very interesting.
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Here's a panel I wired:

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Man, scotchkote is really flammable.
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I do enjoy looking at those but I must agree, my panels are neat but some of those are just neurotic . I square my wires off too but some of those look like they had a level put on them. I also think that alot of these guys just like standing in the same spot for a while. Hmm help the other guys hump wire or stand here for four hours cutting in a panel .....? Doing up a panel like that doesn't make one a better electrician it just means that you have more disposable time.
I agree with you, here is a picture of a change-out I did a few weeks ago, water leaked through the meterbase down the SEU and destroyed the main breaker and most of the branch breakers(over time).

From the time I got on site and pulled the meter, to the time I got in the van to leave was 3hours, I could have taken longer and made the panel super neat, but this looks just as good and made more money coming in under the quote.
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I really don't have a problem with wire-nuts in a new panel. I bet walkerj is using that sawzall to cut his 500. That would drive me nuts.
I don't have a problem with wire nuts either, I use them all of the time. Here is proof, Not!!
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