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11-06-2009, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by tie003uk
as i said before if you have a circuit with only hot and neutral and no ground you have to conect neutral to ground to provide some form of protection
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there is no neutral in a two wire circuit, just hot and ground.
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11-06-2009, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by tie003uk
i just added 4 two bulb lights
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Their called "lamps" not bulbs...bulbs are what you put in the ground.
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11-06-2009, 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by tie003uk
but they are always going to be carrying the neutral into the ground even if its not conected at the fixure because its conected together at the service.
if you have old wire with no gorund you have to conect a bonding jumper to neutral.
so going back to my first question whats the load on the rec's. i can't just add 12 15A rec together its not done like that.how and what?
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I would honestly sugtgest an apprenticeship program,prehaps through the IEC or the union; get a job over here being an apprentice/helper and the comnay should pay your way through school. You need to pick up some theory.
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11-06-2009, 10:55 PM
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Neutral to ground
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Originally Posted by tie003uk
as i said before if you have a circuit with only hot and neutral and no ground you have to conect neutral to ground to provide some form of protection
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You may have said it...but it is not safe.
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11-07-2009, 07:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BuzzKill
there is no neutral in a two wire circuit, just hot and ground.
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Hot and ground ed, not hot and ground
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11-09-2009, 07:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BuzzKill
Their called "lamps" not bulbs...bulbs are what you put in the ground.
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i know they are called lamps.....****er
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11-09-2009, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by tie003uk
i know they are called lamps.....****er
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Easy big guy! That was ground in to my head when I was young sapling in the trade...
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11-09-2009, 10:00 PM
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Easy big guy! That was ground in to my head when I was young sapling in the trade...
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yep me too....i'm going through the union at the moment but being out of the trade for 5yrs and not using the 10yr old college stuff as much on site you tend to forget stuff 15yrs on.
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11-09-2009, 10:13 PM
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you know i did 2yrs of college in the uk on electrical....and it seams like i wasted my time sometimes when i can't remember half of it. it was just different comeing here and trying to learn the diffs, even getting to know things as simple as the wire gauge and how you have 2 feeders N AND ground into the service as the uk has only a live(hot), neutral and ground as a 230V and this voltage to all power points of the house. i feel like a dumb ass sometimes asking simple questions but you just gotta ask them.
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11-10-2009, 08:51 PM
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Rodentia Rattus
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tie003uk
you know i did 2yrs of college in the uk on electrical....and it seams like i wasted my time sometimes when i can't remember half of it. it was just different comeing here and trying to learn the diffs, even getting to know things as simple as the wire gauge and how you have 2 feeders N AND ground into the service as the uk has only a live(hot), neutral and ground as a 230V and this voltage to all power points of the house. i feel like a dumb ass sometimes asking simple questions but you just gotta ask them.
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Granted most US sparkies would be lost going to Europe and working the trade, so don't feel so lost.
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