donfta

ok dude,why dont you tell us how a power saver works

Celtic

I'm still waiting for the salesman/installer to tell me why I need this product.......

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JohnJ0906

Speaking of education, why don't you learn punctuation, grammar, and spelling.

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cdnelectrician

I haven't actually paid much attention to these things. I was just commenting on your attitude. It looks like a capacitor bank...but since a house doesn't really have that many linear loads and houses are mostly comprised of resistive loads I can't see it doing all that much for the customer. But, like I said I haven't done my research on these things.

donfta

[quote=JohnJ0906;58668]Speaking of education, why don't you learn punctuation, grammar, and spelling.[/quote

ok mr grammar, still riding with the circus?

Celtic

Come on Don...you're not winning anyone over on this product shooting the breeze.

Like I said 5 hours ago:

It may be time for you to "put up or shut up".
We have given you the floor to explain how this item works and why we should consider becoming installers as well.
Until you have answered the question, there really is no point in continuing this charade.

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donfta

you are correct,I do electical house audits,and for a small home no this really dosent make much of a diiference,But know for a large home with central ac,well pumps,jucuzzi,hot tubs washer,dryer,trash compactors,pools thing like that it really dose work,and for a commercial kitchen with walk in coolers ,ect So Im not here to fight this whole sight about the power saver,just dont think it was right to say it was crap if you know nothing about it thats all.Im getting into windmill power know for the price its well worth the money......... I tell the home owners right up front if it will work for there home,tell them to change bulbs out and things like that,maybe ballersters to for smaller bulbs

Celtic

Telling me "it works" does not tell me "how it works".

You're not fighting the whole site...just telling me how it works - if you know.
Until you can tell me how it works, should I believe it does or doesn't perform as claimed?

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donfta

dont give a dam really if no one listens to me

donfta

go to www.powersave.com

Celtic

How about you explain it to me...like I was a customer you were trying to sell to.

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donfta

ok,hi im enviormental eletric and if i can svae you 25 percent on your electric bill a month would you be interested ? So from there if they say yes I say lets see what we can do to help you out,and from there I show them the bulbs there burning are wrong and maybe the floresent lights are the old one and tell them to replace ballersters and put smaller bulbs in them,then I check the water heater to see if thats electric and I recommend a gas instint hot unit,and if they have a pool and hot tub and jucuzzi and well and things with motors or transformers then I show them all the info on the powersaver,look celtic i dont give a dam about the saver im just trying to feed my family and things are dead hear. I dont know where your at but right know ill do what it takes to make a buck.This guy from dunkin dounuts wants 10 of them for his stores,so you find the owner of one of those stores and Ill bet he ows 5 of them,I bite at typing and for me to explain how it works I just show them the brochure,and tell them the web site .There is 3 types 1200 3200 3400 12 is for the house 32 is for commercial 3 phase 200 amp 34 is for 3 phase 400 amp

bauler

You're not even a electrian are you? Do you know what power factor means? I wouldn't feel right scamming people out of their hard earned money. The thing doesn't work buddy, do you get it. You might as well swing a dead chicken around your head and chant to your electric meter. If your customers are saving money they are using less power. As in kwh.
That is, smaller bulbs, turning off lights, ect, just like mom taught you.

I have a bringe in Nothern Arizona I will sell yea cheap.

I smell a troll.

Celtic

Those items right there reduce the power used...
LMAO...part of the "sale" is changing an electric water heater to a gas fired instant hot...OMG, you can say that to people with a straight face?


I don't give a dam either...but it takes some set of nuts to tell us the thing is not a POS when in fact it is.
The power usage was reduced significantly before that box was installed - that's a BS shell game and YOU KNOW IT.

Obviously....




If you showed up at my home or business to do a job, and then attempted to sell me this POS w/o being able to explain how it works w/o sending me to some website - you'd be leaving with a boot mark on the seat of your pants.


My suggestion is to crawl back under whatever rock you slithered out from and be seen no more.

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Rafer

Don - Your grammar and punctuation are so bad I can barely make sense of your posts. Dropping out of the 5th grade was probably not a good idea.

JohnJ0906

So you don't really know how it works either.

Interesting comment, coming from a clown.

I am not normally rude, especially to new members, but you have been insulting from your 1st post. You shouldn't tell people to get an education, when yours seems to have been lacking.

OK, 1 more time. You claim these are useful products. You claim they will save a customer a significant amount by correcting power factor, EVEN THOUGH residential customers are not charged for power factor correction. Explain how.

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electricista

This thread has some interesting dialogue but it is all tainted by the lack of respect for each other. Is calling each other names really necessary? Make your points without the name calling - it does nothing to help your posts.

If an english teacher came in here and read this stuff then he/she would probably tear most of our posts apart.

donfta

Just tried to explain the power saver to some of these guys and all I get is you have bad grammar and crawl under a rock. Im sure there both out of work,cause everthing they say is negitive or rude.Guess the power saver company is a big fake lololol ! celtic I tried to explain to you like a nice guy and all you did was put me down with the circus clown,Take a good look in the mirror celtic before you tell people to climb under a rock lolol. See why no one goes to this site,you people must be from the west with all them nice comments...............




what him say

Celtic

Don, you didn't explain anything.
You tried to....but failed miserably in every aspect.


I still can't get over the claimed savings achieved by that product when one of the points is swapping out the the H20 heater ~ that is truly comedic genius


I'll give you yet another chance to redeem yourself

So IF some rube of a HO was to swallow the load your selling...how much would it cost?
Let's talk REAL dollars here...cost to replace lamps, swap out the WH [LMAO], etc and then actually pay you to furnish and install the product ~ how much?


BTW, I would like to publicly thank you for that heart felt, well thought out PM you sent me.
I say "I would like to..." ~ because it ain't gonna happen

Would anyone like to see the PM?

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John

Sure...want to swap PM'S.

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