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02-16-2009, 04:33 PM
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make me laugh
Hey kids,your mom no where your at? The restraunt up the street has a power save,the OWNER is a MASTER ELECTRICAN, his monthly Bill is 650 a month the other restraunt down the street is 1300 a month with out it,and it the same type of restraunt same amount of coolers,guess mike the MASTER electrican is a troll to, You children are not worth the time,and further more all you do is insult......go find mommy is time to get your asses clean............
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02-16-2009, 04:36 PM
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marylandschool
They but one in maryland school savings over 5000,000 for the year,There stupid to
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02-16-2009, 05:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by donfta
Hey kids,your mom no where your at? The restraunt up the street has a power save,the OWNER is a MASTER ELECTRICAN, his monthly Bill is 650 a month the other restraunt down the street is 1300 a month with out it,and it the same type of restraunt same amount of coolers,guess mike the MASTER electrican is a troll to, You children are not worth the time,and further more all you do is insult......go find mommy is time to get your asses clean............ 
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I know this guy...he knows this other guy...and he built a car that runs on water.
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They but one in maryland school savings over 5000,000 for the year,There stupid to 
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You really shouldn't post while drunk/stoned
But do come back [after you've sobered up] with your 3rd grade education and amaze us all with your explanation of how this thing works.
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02-16-2009, 06:59 PM
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They but one in maryland school savings over 5000,000 for the year,There stupid to 
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I'll ask yet again - where is your data? Post some facts. Facts. You have yet to do so.
On a side note, childish and insulting PMs don't do much to make your case.
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02-16-2009, 07:17 PM
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chumps
you gotta be ****ting me,Third grade education hahaaa,ok my son has skulls on his lunch box for school and hes in the second grade,hahaaa............If you kids new what a capacitor dose then its really a no brainer...just keep talking smack ,you need to stop drinking..hahaaa...I know your both master electricans right hahahaa,
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02-16-2009, 07:57 PM
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Power Saver?
Well let me ask a question a watt meter measures watts and cant measure reactance so it may work with motors in a bigg commercial service area that can tell what there PF is , but a normal home no . This would only save pennys which one could not tell , its just a power factor correction device power company charges by the watts you use ,not by pf in your home they dont care or check ? and does your company do a power factor load study meaning adjust that device to that service or that home owners electrical service or commercial service if you just install a box allready built and no adjustments made or test or study performed its no good . You can not save power in watts you use power watts you just adjust pf to cut out reactance but its not measured by a watt meter ? funny thing is if your pf gets worst in your home your watt meter measures less wattage . And this computer messes up power factor comments lets talk power savor
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02-16-2009, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by donfta
you gotta be ****ting me,Third grade education hahaaa,ok my son has skulls on his lunch box for school and hes in the second grade,hahaaa............If you kids new what a capacitor dose then its really a no brainer...just keep talking smack ,you need to stop drinking..hahaaa...I know your both master electricans right hahahaa, 
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Don,
I'm still waiting for the answer to a couple of questions I asked of you:
02-11-2009, 05:20 PM
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Don...explain to us ignorant folk just how this thing works.
Now is your chance to shine and prove yourself and the product.
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It's been quite a few days now....still trying to understand the literature?
...and the follow up:
02-12-2009, 09:53 AM
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I'll give you yet another chance to redeem yourself
So IF some rube of a HO was to swallow the load your selling...how much would it cost?
Let's talk REAL dollars here...cost to replace lamps, swap out the WH [LMAO], etc and then actually pay you to furnish and install the product ~ how much?
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You have been given ample time to state your case and impress us.
You have not been able to provide any documentation to support your wild claims.
The only conclusion any rational person can come to is:
Power-Saver is a waste of money, time and effort.
AMF.
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02-16-2009, 08:56 PM
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I skimmed this whole subject in about 5 minutes just now. I think that Mr donfta has found himself a perfect electrical niche. A niche is a premier thing for any electrical service to have cornered. Some do solar, some do controls, Mr donfta sells the public horse****
As long as he makes a profit at it and does no real harm to John Q Public with his horse**** device, he has my macblessing. After all, its the new American way to dishoner oneself with horse**** that is put forth. Look at what our country's new fearless wonderful leader says and you get my drift.
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02-17-2009, 09:33 AM
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He is obviously
A) a troll, and
B) not an electrician.
I was going to put him on the ignore list, but there is still a little entertainment left, I think.
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02-17-2009, 09:38 AM
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I was going to put him on the ignore list, but there is still a little entertainment left, I think. 
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I considered that option as you said...then decided: WHY?
He really isn't that entertaining.
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02-18-2009, 12:46 PM
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windmill power
 Let see,I have wired over a 100 homes that were over 3000 sq ft every one of them,I have wired many commercial buildings with me and a helper so I guess I just got lucky and the power came on to every job !
Has anyone wired up a windmill for house power ?
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02-18-2009, 12:49 PM
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facts
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I'll ask yet again - where is your data? Post some facts. Facts. You have yet to do so.
On a side note, childish and insulting PMs don't do much to make your case.
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John go to the website and go to top of page where it says faqs and hit on it it will tell you what info your looking for
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02-18-2009, 01:40 PM
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John go to the website and go to top of page where it says faqs and hit on it it will tell you what info your looking for
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I did.
You have installed many of these. I'd like to know the data you have recorded from these installs. Before and after, without any other changes.
I have heard a lot of claims, but no proof that these things will save significant money, by themselves.
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02-19-2009, 03:14 PM
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power save
CBS Alanta ch 46 just did a show on tv supporting the power save
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02-19-2009, 04:00 PM
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Donfta, do you have a link to the TV show?
I looked at the FAQ at http://www.saveonelectric.net/powerfactor.html
What a pile of steaming bovine excrement.
Correcting the power factor on a house does nothing. Go troll somewhere else.
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02-19-2009, 04:14 PM
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CBS Alanta ch 46 just did a show on tv supporting the power save
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The show that "just" aired was from Apr 24, 2008.
The bottom line:
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“I’m looking forward to cranking it up [.EDIT] his Central A/C[./EDIT],” said Greg. “So we’ll see what happens!”
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So where is the follow up?
Anyway...
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I have heard a lot of claims, but no proof that these things will save significant money, by themselves.
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There is still 0 proof that it works.
I am sure I could provide "testimony" from "someone" that had the device installed and they will say it does not work.
Once again Don, you fail.
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02-19-2009, 04:15 PM
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to many ignorant people
bashing people is all you do on this site,ill never post again,and if you think the power save dosent work with motors then you need to hang up your tools
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02-19-2009, 04:18 PM
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...ill never post again....
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You and the "Power Save" have something in common - false promises.
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02-19-2009, 04:25 PM
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will it ever end? I don't believe don can help but keep posting.
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