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02-19-2009, 05:12 PM
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Have we gone "feline"? 
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02-19-2009, 05:41 PM
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Wyome
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Quite a thread. I have to say one thing for the don. He doesn't seem to back down when confronted. I am sure, however, that he won't produce any hard science for the gizmo.
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02-19-2009, 06:03 PM
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Don I THINK I was polite and asked for facts to back up your argument, I have yet to see any FACTS.
Saying two restaurants use electricity and one saves money over the other one is not proof of anything.
This information should be very simple to come by and the manufacture should be able to provide the proof.
Using a resistive and inductive load banks and a recording power meter, measuring volts, amps kva, kw, kwhr, vars and pf set up a test varying load and pf, measurements with and without device. I am a small company and I can perform this test in my shop, surely they can do the same.
I hate to be cynical but I have been around this dog and pony show before, this is not some hot new product (unless you can PROVE different). This device has been around in one or another incarnation for quite a while and when energy prices go up it hits the market in some new packaging but the same old stuff.
I ask you POLITELY and many others on here have asked the same. FURNISH THE PROFF, documentation of test. In reality if this device did work as you claim, the firm that manufactures it would have it certified by independent labs in a hot red second.
As of now it appears the Sham-Wow has more credibility and reportedly that product has all the absorbency of a plastic bag.
Last edited by brian john; 02-19-2009 at 09:58 PM.
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02-19-2009, 06:32 PM
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Mad Skills
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brian john
As of now it appears the Sham-Wow has more credibility and reportedly that product has all the absorbency of a plastic bag.
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LMAO
I was thinking Vince would be a great pitch man for the "Power Saver"
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02-19-2009, 06:56 PM
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Does this sound like donfta? 
I think so. 
Attachment 1038
http://www.usesmfg.com/salesrep.html
Carry On!
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02-19-2009, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by John
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I would hope a salesman would be smoother than he has been.
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02-19-2009, 07:37 PM
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DJFVT
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Originally Posted by JohnJ0906
I would hope a salesman would be smoother than he has been.
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He's trying to...just doesn't have the "Used Car Salesman" technique down pat yet. 
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02-19-2009, 08:31 PM
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Hey, my wife bought the Sham-Wow set and I have to admit, they work. Most people who say they don't work have tried to use them dry. You have to get them wet and wring them out once for them to really absorb liquid. Frankly, I am offended you would put the Sham-Wow in the same categorie as the Powersaver. Now if the Powersaver was made in Germany, you'd have to give it a second look because you know the Germans make good stuff!
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02-19-2009, 08:57 PM
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Go Tigers
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Quote:
Originally Posted by amptech
Hey, my wife bought the Sham-Wow set and I have to admit, they work. Most people who say they don't work have tried to use them dry. You have to get them wet and wring them out once for them to really absorb liquid. Frankly, I am offended you would put the Sham-Wow in the same categorie as the Powersaver. Now if the Powersaver was made in Germany, you'd have to give it a second look because you know the Germans make good stuff!
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02-19-2009, 09:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by donfta
CBS Alanta ch 46 just did a show on tv supporting the power save
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Is this the same CBS that got caught tampering with the crash testing of Chevy pick-ups? Rigging it with explosives, so when you watched the footage the explosion started a frame or two before the impact.
Was does Geraldo think of the power saver?
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02-19-2009, 09:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by te12co2w
Quite a thread. I have to say one thing for the don. He doesn't seem to back down when confronted. I am sure, however, that he won't produce any hard science for the gizmo.
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Saddam Hussain and his 2 sons didn't back down either.
I wonder how things turned out for them?
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02-19-2009, 09:58 PM
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If this thing worked would we be wasting our time asking Don for proof of this device or would we be running out to buy one. I dare think we'd all be running.
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02-19-2009, 09:59 PM
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Mad Skills
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I just found a cool new way to lower your electric bill ~ static.
Yup...I'm going to save HUGE BANK running my appliances off a charge I can generate for free with no installation charges.
If anyone wants to buy into this new franchise that is literally about to EXPLODE...let me know.
Be prepared to pony up some cash though.
While it's free ~ the details cost.
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02-20-2009, 09:09 AM
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Here's a story about another one of these gagits, just plug it in
Not sure I did that right, heres the link
www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Nj-Ddg9XCA
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02-22-2009, 11:05 PM
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If Don post again I would suggest you contact PowerSaver (if you have any connections there) and get one of there engineers (if they have any on staff) to post here. I assure you and them if they have any evidence of this product actually saving money the members of this forum will be a major benefit their sales.
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03-01-2009, 02:26 PM
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Hello, HELLO, HELLOOOOOOOOOOOO Don are you there?
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03-01-2009, 04:43 PM
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think i'm gonna get me some of that " power saver " stuff. should i get the cellulose or the fiberglass kind ???? about 12"-16" do it ?? 
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03-01-2009, 11:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by donfta
you just dont get it people like you are ignorant,you never installed one you never had one but you know there no good,can tell your not in your own business,still have your mommy wipping your ass I bet.....And I still have the same people I do work for call me all the time when they need work done,so go get yourself a education and move out of mommys house
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Come on you guys he just come from boat. Make nice!
Hes out from Mommy's house first time, yes.
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03-01-2009, 11:49 PM
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I have some guy emailing me all of the time trying to sell me on of these units that plug into the meter can (meter pan for you guys up North) jaws, and then you plug the utility meter into it.
That sounds like something that would work. Cut your bill in half by jumping out one side?
He wants $200 for it. Has sold 300,000 and never had anybody ask for their money back.
How could I loose?
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03-02-2009, 12:28 AM
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Burger Flipper
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jrannis
I have some guy emailing me all of the time trying to sell me on of these units that plug into the meter can (meter pan for you guys up North) jaws, and then you plug the utility meter into it.
That sounds like something that would work. Cut your bill in half by jumping out one side?
He wants $200 for it. Has sold 300,000 and never had anybody ask for their money back.
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well then I am going to build on that saves me 100% of my electricity. 
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