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Old 03-26-2012, 11:29 PM   #1
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A friend of the family is building a new 3700 sq.ft house. There general contractor said they could use any sub-contractor as long as they were licensed. I'm not licensed yet, but they asked if I would be interested in doing the work if I could find someone who is licensed. The thing is the friend (homeowner) said the general contractor was allotting $10,000 for the electric work, which to me seems really low for a house that big. In no way am I experienced in bidding this kind of work so I wanted to ask you experts if it seemed feasible to wire this house for 10 grand? Don't know much about the house except; 3-car garage, & all gas appliances.

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Old 03-26-2012, 11:32 PM   #2
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LOL..... just walk away dude, trust me. TRUST ME. The first mistake is the GC is allocating....10 grand for a 3700 square footer..? thats a joke. There is no way in hell you will be able to make any money. I know it seems interesting to try and 10,000 sounds like a lot of money but in this case its not... TRUST ME...

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Tell him sure ill do it for 10 grand if you but all the material...
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That sounds a little low to me. The GC is trying to low ball y'all.
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I'm not worried about me so much, because I'm not set on doing it. I'm just concerned my friend is being given bad advice/information by the general contractor, and going to be shocked when they have to pay out thousands of more dollars.
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I'm not worried about me so much, because I'm not set on doing it. I'm just concerned my friend is being given bad advice/information by the general contractor, and going to be shocked when they have to pay out thousands of more dollars.


There was a thread a while back about working for family and friends. If you are still considering doing the job, I would recommend reading it first if you can find it.
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You will still make money but not much. That's around $3.00. I'm around$3.65 to $4.25. A house that size I'll bet that there will be a lot of extras. In my area a home owner can wire it them self but has to pass all inspections. If this is the same where you live you could wire it and have your friend help. Here when the inspectors hear the HO is doing it himself they pull out the magnifying glass and really give it a good look.
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There is no freaking way any real contractor can do any house for that using the 2011 code. I get more than that for a 1 bath 3 bedroom 1000 sq foot house. Hell the breakers alone would be around $800.
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You will still make money but not much. That's around $3.00. I'm around$3.65 to $4.25.
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A friend of the family is building a new 3700 sq.ft house. There general contractor said they could use any sub-contractor as long as they were licensed. I'm not licensed yet, but they asked if I would be interested in doing the work if I could find someone who is licensed. The thing is the friend (homeowner) said the general contractor was allotting $10,000 for the electric work, which to me seems really low for a house that big. In no way am I experienced in bidding this kind of work so I wanted to ask you experts if it seemed feasible to wire this house for 10 grand? Don't know much about the house except; 3-car garage, & all gas appliances.
10 K ?? for 3700 sq foot house I don't think so I can smell Conneries allready.

All gaz items don't bother me but that size of house you will run into alot of extra items add on to it and will really push the allotting budget out of the window pretty fast ( don't be suprised if that allready hit 2X of oringal number as one person set that X number of cost )

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My base price on that house would be 15,000 plus the cost of cans & trims, I dont supply other light fixtures.
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I'd ask how a budget can be created without plans and specs.
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Its like bidding on whats behind door #2 with curtain partially open
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I'd ask how a budget can be created without plans and specs.
That's exactly what I thought! It's actually a friend of my parents. He approached me at a retirement party just the other night, and said I'd still be able to do it because the electric rough in was 3 weeks out. I said, "Well what about the electrical contractor that's already lined up?" He said there wasn't one lined up. Huh? Electric is 3 weeks out and noone is lined up? The whole thing is just strange. Even though I'm no resi expert, I still figured it would cost AT LEAST $15,000.
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I usually stay away from job for family , friends , friend of family ,when it come to money , many people change and there's often a catch to it that bit you in the butt
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Typical GC. Bet he didn't low ball his labor and materials
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I just did a tiny 1200 foot cottage with service nothing fancy overheads in every room , outlets to code , smokes and a service for $6800
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Sorry Buddy, just a quick word to the wise here. A 3700 sf home CAN BE wired for this price but you won't make a dime.. It has been my experience that when a GC sets a budget for the electrical they always go low to get the job. Now the question is this. Do you want to lose your a$$ or let him do it. Get a set of plans and bid it " as per submitted blueprints/plans". good luck
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Sorry Buddy, just a quick word to the wise here. A 3700 sf home CAN BE wired for this price but you won't make a dime.. It has been my experience that when a GC sets a budget for the electrical they always go low to get the job. Now the question is this. Do you want to lose your a$$ or let him do it. Get a set of plans and bid it " as per submitted blueprints/plans". good luck
Maybe code minimum, but I haven't seen too many 3700 sq ft min code houses(actually none).
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I did a 2800 sq. ft. house in 2007, nothing fancy, other than a media panel in the walk-in attic. This was back when romex was $35 a roll, and I did it for just under $15k. The GC is either an idiot, or a jerk.

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