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Cletis · 03-27-2012, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by B W E

I did a 2800 sq. ft. house in 2007, nothing fancy, other than a media panel in the walk-in attic. This was back when romex was $35 a roll, and I did it for just under $15k. The GC is either an idiot, or a jerk.

Id say a greedy jerk

rnr electric · 03-27-2012, 07:59 PM

Backstay, I totally agree. Absolute bare minimum, no cans,14 awg wherever you can and 12where you have to. Aluminum whenever u can..You could do it, but it'd be ugly. I would run away from this one for sure. When the GC has an electrical liscense, then he can "budget" it for himself

HARRY304E · 03-27-2012, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Theriot

You will still make money but not much. That's around $3.00. I'm around$3.65 to $4.25. A house that size I'll bet that there will be a lot of extras. In my area a home owner can wire it them self but has to pass all inspections. If this is the same where you live you could wire it and have your friend help. Here when the inspectors hear the HO is doing it himself they pull out the magnifying glass and really give it a good look.

I'd like to see that and you will do that with all 4" can's right?....

davis9 · 03-27-2012, 08:27 PM

Doing one now. 3800'. 20 5" cans. 3.5 days on the rough(4 men). Rough includes service installed and all circuits inside paned w/equip grounds made up. 15K total. I just got a 10K check today for the rough/service. Money can be made for sure but you have to be fast and efficient. Also did some whole house speaker wiring direct for the new HO, 4 hrs and 1200 later. Hope they add some more....

10K is real light.IMO

Tom

Theriot · 03-27-2012, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by HARRY304E

I'd like to see that and you will do that with all 4" can's right?....

No way wouldn't touch it myself. This is a two hundred bucks in your pocket at best. No three ways, no cans, two floods at the most ect. I was just saying it can be done if this family friend wants to help and drill hole and pull wire. Free labor is the only way I would even think about it. Free union labor. Lol

T Healy · 03-30-2012, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by bctoasters

A friend of the family is building a new 3700 sq.ft house. There general contractor said they could use any sub-contractor as long as they were licensed. I'm not licensed yet, but they asked if I would be interested in doing the work if I could find someone who is licensed. The thing is the friend (homeowner) said the general contractor was allotting $10,000 for the electric work, which to me seems really low for a house that big. In no way am I experienced in bidding this kind of work so I wanted to ask you experts if it seemed feasible to wire this house for 10 grand? Don't know much about the house except; 3-car garage, & all gas appliances.

If the house, for example, is 20,000 to wire then the gc is allotting the first ten and the homeowner is responsible for the difference. Just like a lighting allowance. The builder puts up so much (as a sell tactic) and the buyer makes up the difference. Plus, this allotment is negotiable before the work starts.

wesleydnunder · 03-30-2012, 11:43 AM

I agree with the others on the price. Even down here that's a $15K job.

I would never do a job for friends or family. When you do they think it has a lifetime warranty...your lifetime. Every time a lamp blinks they'll be callin' you back.

Mark

Magnettica · 03-31-2012, 01:50 AM

$10k is a joke. Run Forest, Run. I did a 4200 square foot house 2 years ago that wound up at over $35,000.00. Nothing too fancy but a bunch of recessed lights and sub panels. It ay be tempting but don't do it.

wildleg · 03-31-2012, 01:56 AM

you could do the job if you want, but odds are that when you are done:

1) you will be broke, or you won't be able to finish the job
2) they won't be your friends anymore.

if you can handle that, then go for it.

rrolleston · 03-31-2012, 10:12 AM

I refuse to do large jobs for my family members and friends. Don't mix work with family and friends.

Davethewave · 04-01-2012, 11:06 AM

Sounds like "Storage Wars". How can anyone bid an electrical job by the square foot. Price is per connection where I come from. Currently, with 2011 nightmare codes, around $ 110 per connection plus fixtures. A house that size with a nice lighting plan could run 50K. Don' forget lighting control. Lighting control needs to be considered in a large house in 2012.

RGH · 04-01-2012, 01:54 PM

when GC sobers up tell him to call someone else

TOOL_5150 · 04-01-2012, 04:26 PM

I wouldnt consider doing a 3700 sq ft for any less than $20k

10k is just insane.

PureElectric · 04-03-2012, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bctoasters

A friend of the family is building a new 3700 sq.ft house. There general contractor said they could use any sub-contractor as long as they were licensed. I'm not licensed yet, but they asked if I would be interested in doing the work if I could find someone who is licensed. The thing is the friend (homeowner) said the general contractor was allotting $10,000 for the electric work, which to me seems really low for a house that big. In no way am I experienced in bidding this kind of work so I wanted to ask you experts if it seemed feasible to wire this house for 10 grand? Don't know much about the house except; 3-car garage, & all gas appliances.

I would check to see when this low ball estimate was made. To make a house up to code it takes a lot of WIRE, and wire is out the nose espensive. You might get lower wages from state to state but wire is still a major exspence for a house this size. You might want to ask the friend/ homeowner where he got this number if it doesnt step on any ones toes.

captkirk · 04-03-2012, 09:51 PM

The GC probably thinks your gonna haggle over the price like two rug merchants on the streets of New Delhi.. or he thinks its like Pawn Stars, you throw out and number then he does than you , so aim high and tell him 100 grand so maybe youll meet somewhere decent..

Tiger · 04-04-2012, 04:08 PM

The GC is probably protecting the profit. The GC might have $20k for the electrical but if you provide the EC sub only $10k will be discounted from the quote.