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05-25-2011, 11:34 PM
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Electrical Contractor
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Winnipeg, Canada
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Originally Posted by randas
The code reference for # of cables in a connector would be covered under something like 2-024 Which says materials must be used for what they are approved for. The MFG's instructions/packaging/cut sheet will tell you what size/number of cables it is rated for.
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As per T&B website
Suggested Application: NMD90 (Loomex) 14/2-10/2; 14/3-10/3; 2 cables 14/2
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05-25-2011, 11:48 PM
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#42
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Location: Canada
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The only residential panel with a door on the cover is the cutler hammer panels - which i what i use exclusively now, i previously used siemens panels but am now gettin really good pricing from cutler, as for the wires goin into the connectors i assure you there is no more then 2 cables in a connector, the cutler panela have knockouts stacked on top of eachother 2 deep so it may look like 4 cables are going into a connector but there not i wilk post a new picture showing this next week when im back at that house.
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05-25-2011, 11:52 PM
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#43
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Senior Member
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Location: Commy Canada
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Originally Posted by arni19
The only residential panel with a door on the cover is the cutler hammer panels - which i what i use exclusively now, i previously used siemens panels but am now gettin really good pricing from cutler, as for the wires goin into the connectors i assure you there is no more then 2 cables in a connector, the cutler panela have knockouts stacked on top of eachother 2 deep so it may look like 4 cables are going into a connector but there not i wilk post a new picture showing this next week when im back at that house.
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Don't get out much? Square D and Siemens have a door
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05-26-2011, 12:06 AM
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Location: Canada
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Not the ones i get in saskatchewan, the only square d i have worked with was in a commercial building they all had doors - obvious, i installed easily 60-90 siemens panels in houses - none of them had doors...
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05-26-2011, 12:13 AM
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Bababoee
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Location: New Jersey
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why in the world would someone cut in a panel like that......WHY.....Look at all the real estate you took up for no good reason...god forbid you want to add something on that board.....Just come in from the top and keep it clean...whats the point of all that ..?
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05-26-2011, 12:15 AM
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Location: N.E.
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Originally Posted by captkirk
why in the world would someone cut in a panel like that......WHY.....Look at all the real estate you took up for no good reason...god forbid you want to add something on that board.....Just come in from the top and keep it clean...whats the point of all that ..?
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They can't come in the top. They are Canadian panels and have a separate compartment for the service conductors.
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05-26-2011, 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Peter D
They can't come in the top. They are Canadian panels and have a separate compartment for the service conductors.
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100% correct have no choice but to come in the sides.. When we show up to wire we require a 4x8 sheet of plywood mounted in the mechanical room. Space is not that big of an issue since plumbing an what not stays far as possible away from us so there is plenty of room to add whatever you'd like later.
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05-26-2011, 12:22 AM
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Sideways Sparky
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: SK Canada
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Originally Posted by wcord
I am referring to the service entrance conduit.
Around here, the train of thought is that IF we were to bring the conduit and conductors into the top, there is the possibility that moisture could track down the conductor into the breaker. By coming into the back or side, we are "in theory" creating a drip loop.
We even have to drill a 1/4" hole in the bottom of our LB so that any moisture will escape.
And there may be some credence to this. Over the years, I have run into the odd main breaker which has had condensation, creating corrosion.
No fittings inside the building is to prevent some idiot from gaining access to the unfused conductors.
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I am aware of the sealing and drainage requirements. It is not expressly prohibited though.
AFAIK the no fitting thing is just for the line side of the meter. I could be wrong on that though
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05-26-2011, 01:00 AM
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Bababoee
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: New Jersey
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter D
They can't come in the top. They are Canadian panels and have a separate compartment for the service conductors.
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oh never mind....
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05-26-2011, 01:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by arni19
Not the ones i get in saskatchewan, the only square d i have worked with was in a commercial building they all had doors - obvious, i installed easily 60-90 siemens panels in houses - none of them had doors...
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Odd 90% of square D panels have doors. Can't speak for siemens but I do know we have a pallet of 100A resi grade ones and they have doors
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05-26-2011, 02:34 PM
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Sideways Sparky
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: SK Canada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by randas
Odd 90% of square D panels have doors. Can't speak for siemens but I do know we have a pallet of 100A resi grade ones and they have doors
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the 24 and 32's do, anything bigger doesn't. At least in my experience
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05-26-2011, 09:46 PM
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#52
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Canada
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Most houses were puttin 200a 40 cct panels in, ive never used a square d resi panel.
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05-27-2011, 10:41 PM
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#53
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Port Alberni,B.C.Canada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by captkirk
why in the world would someone cut in a panel like that......WHY.....Look at all the real estate you took up for no good reason...god forbid you want to add something on that board.....Just come in from the top and keep it clean...whats the point of all that ..?
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Yeah once again it's Canada.We are not allowed to run any branch circuits into the main breaker compartment!
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