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Residential code q?
Is there any violation for using a 100a subpanel as a 60a subpanel? I've looked in the 2008 and have yet to find anything? Your thoughts are greatly appreciated.
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11-05-2009, 08:09 PM
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Nope.
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11-05-2009, 08:10 PM
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not that I Know of.
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11-05-2009, 08:11 PM
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thanks guys!
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11-05-2009, 08:21 PM
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What is the connected load? As long as it isn't over 60a then there is no problem.
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11-05-2009, 08:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by william1978
What is the connected load? As long as it isn't over 60a then there is no problem.
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Im gonna be feeding the kitchen with this subpanel. I'm gonna be putting a 60a breaker on it so i'm hoping the inspector doesnt say " what if the HO decides to add more circuits because the panel would have more room".
My thing is if its being protected by a 60a breaker the wire should be protected no matter how much it draws. If everything were to be on at the same time then Im assuming the breaker would do its job.
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11-05-2009, 08:28 PM
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The inspector is there to inspect not suspect.
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11-05-2009, 08:29 PM
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The inspector is there to inspect not suspect.
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guess im just overthinking it.
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11-05-2009, 08:32 PM
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guess im just overthinking it.
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No. Had a inspector tell me once that he doesn't care what they plan on doing latter on he only wanted to look at what was installed at this point.
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11-05-2009, 08:35 PM
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The inspector is there to inspect not suspect.
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Or expect.
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11-05-2009, 08:37 PM
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Or expect.
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I would like fries with that please. 
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11-05-2009, 08:38 PM
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I appreciate it guys! Have a good one
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Sorry pal, we're cleaning the grease fryer right now. We don't have any fries today so how about picking something else?
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11-05-2009, 08:40 PM
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100 amp sub-panel
I am just throwing this out there; I have not done residential in a long time. Let's say the kitchen would now, or in the future have a range with a self cleaning oven. HIGH draw. Let's say that it is thanksgiving and the oven, and all of the surface burners are in use. Now add a microwave and a couple of warming trays and a crockpot ,or two. That is the way it is here on T-day. What would be the current draw? And since it would be on presumably, more than two hours. What size sub panel should it be?
What size feeder, as well? 
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11-05-2009, 08:41 PM
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Lmao 480
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I am just throwing this out there; I have not done residential in a long time. Let's say the kitchen would now, or in the future have a range with a self cleaning oven. HIGH draw. Let's say that it is thanksgiving and the oven, and all of the surface burners are in use. Now add a microwave and a couple of warming trays and a crockpot ,or two. That is the way it is here on T-day. What would be the current draw? And since it would be on presumably, more than two hours. What size sub panel should it be?
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That would be the sole responsibility of the person (hopefully a qualified electrician) to determine at the time.
There's just no way you can plan for the future. If you wanted to size the panel for a future range, why not size it just in case someone wants to add a hot tub outside? And a whirlypool in the master bath? And then stick a double-broiling oven next to the range? And a Viking fridge & freezer pair?..................
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Quote:
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That would be the sole responsibility of the person (hopefully a qualified electrician) to determine at the time.
There's just no way you can plan for the future. If you wanted to size the panel for a future range, why not size it just in case someone wants to add a hot tub outside? And a whirlypool in the master bath? And then stick a double-broiling oven next to the range? And a Viking fridge & freezer pair?..................
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Yeah, just install a 400 amp subpanel.
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11-05-2009, 09:00 PM
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What if the guy wants an arc welder installed on the countertop instead of a microwave?
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11-05-2009, 09:01 PM
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What if the guy wants an arc welder installed on the countertop instead of a microwave?
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11-05-2009, 09:04 PM
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