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11-05-2009, 09:07 PM
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I am a RAT.
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Originally Posted by Magnettica
What if the guy wants an arc welder installed on the countertop instead of a microwave?
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11-05-2009, 09:08 PM
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Rat Bastard
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Originally Posted by william1978
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Uh, I already said that.....and did I mention, WELCOME TO THE FORUM.
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11-05-2009, 09:11 PM
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I am a RAT.
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Originally Posted by NolaTigaBait
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Originally Posted by william1978
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Originally Posted by NolaTigaBait
Uh, I already said that.....and did I mention, WELCOME TO THE FORUM.
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Welcome to the forum. 
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11-05-2009, 09:13 PM
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Rat Bastard
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So you agree?
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11-05-2009, 09:15 PM
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I am a RAT.
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Originally Posted by NolaTigaBait
So you agree?
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Yes I agree WELCOME TO THE FORUM.
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11-05-2009, 09:16 PM
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Junior Member
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Totally. I couldn't find anything and it makes perfect sense. Appreciate it 
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Originally Posted by NolaTigaBait
So you agree?
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11-05-2009, 09:20 PM
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100 amp sub-panel
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Originally Posted by 480sparky
That would be the sole responsibility of the person (hopefully a qualified electrician) to determine at the time.
There's just no way you can plan for the future. If you wanted to size the panel for a future range, why not size it just in case someone wants to add a hot tub outside? And a whirlypool in the master bath? And then stick a double-broiling oven next to the range? And a Viking fridge & freezer pair?..................
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My bad, I just assumed since it was a kitchen it would have a range. Why I said future...I don't know. It is just that I spell so well I tend to use a lot of words.
And, I was hoping for someone to use the term "demand factor" in sizing the feeders. Just an honest question.
Last edited by RIVETER; 11-05-2009 at 09:25 PM.
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11-05-2009, 09:22 PM
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I am a RAT.
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Originally Posted by RIVETER
. It is just that I spell so well I tend to use a lot of words. |
Are you Peter D or steelersman?
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11-05-2009, 09:30 PM
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I am a RAT.
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Originally Posted by 480sparky
Sorry pal, we're cleaning the grease fryer right now. We don't have any fries today so how about picking something else?
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I still want some fries with that.
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11-05-2009, 10:12 PM
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Rodentia Rattus
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Originally Posted by MAKALUA09
Lmao 480
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480 is the man with the plan...and the original RAT.
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11-05-2009, 10:16 PM
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Rodentia Rattus
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Originally Posted by william1978
Yes I agree WELCOME TO THE FORUM. |
Welcome to hell is more like it, and some us like it here. 
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11-05-2009, 10:23 PM
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Rat Extraordinaire
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Originally Posted by BuzzKill
480 is the man with the plan...and the original RAT.
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And I plan on heading back to the huge mousetrap with all the cheese in it.
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11-05-2009, 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by RIVETER
I am just throwing this out there; I have not done residential in a long time. Let's say the kitchen would now, or in the future have a range with a self cleaning oven. HIGH draw. Let's say that it is thanksgiving and the oven, and all of the surface burners are in use. Now add a microwave and a couple of warming trays and a crockpot ,or two. That is the way it is here on T-day. What would be the current draw? And since it would be on presumably, more than two hours. What size sub panel should it be?
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What could possibly take 2 hours to cook on high on all 2 burners?
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11-05-2009, 10:31 PM
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Rodentia Rattus
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Originally Posted by LawnGuyLandSparky
What could possibly take 2 hours to cook on high on all 2 burners?
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Where the heck ahve YOU been, LGLS?
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11-05-2009, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by LawnGuyLandSparky
What could possibly take 2 hours to cook on high on all 2 burners?
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Why should we care?
Then again, what's so special about two hours?
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11-05-2009, 10:34 PM
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Rodentia Rattus
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Originally Posted by LawnGuyLandSparky
What could possibly take 2 hours to cook on high on all 2 burners?
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Agreed, in order to compensate for everything on at once we'd be installing commercial services in 1500' homes.
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11-05-2009, 10:36 PM
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Rodentia Rattus
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Originally Posted by 480sparky
what's so special about two hours?
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I think that's the time of the slow death from getting caught in a RAT trap going after all that tasty cheese.
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11-05-2009, 11:04 PM
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#6 copper fan
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Originally Posted by MAKALUA09
Totally. I couldn't find anything and it makes perfect sense. Appreciate it |
Where did you look?
Article 408 - Switchboard and Panelboards
408.36 Overcurrent Protection
Welcome to the forum.
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11-05-2009, 11:07 PM
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Senior Member
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Resi code
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Originally Posted by LawnGuyLandSparky
What could possibly take 2 hours to cook on high on all 2 burners?
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The turkey and pies...in the oven, of course.
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11-05-2009, 11:12 PM
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Senior Member
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residential code
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Originally Posted by 480sparky
Why should we care?
Then again, what's so special about two hours?
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I may be wrong, but it used to be that if a load is run continuously for two or more hours you have to derate to 80%.TREATED AS A CONTINUOUS LOAD, Has that changed? Just an honest question.
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